# General Discussion

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## [Variety is the Spice of Life](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/variety-is-the-spice-of-life/283164)

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**Author:** [@TheSoleMandalorian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheSoleMandalorian)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/variety-is-the-spice-of-life/283164 "2020-12-04T17:54:38Z")

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Ran a mission tonight and was a little disappointed with the scenery I saw. I can understand removing mine-able asteroids from Mission sites for gameplay balance reasons but I don’t feel like it’s a lot to ask for a litt…

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## [Is it possible to gain positive standings with both the Trigs and EDENCOM?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-possible-to-gain-positive-standings-with-both-the-trigs-and-edencom/283507)

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**Author:** [@Kaizen\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Oramara)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-possible-to-gain-positive-standings-with-both-the-trigs-and-edencom/283507 "2020-12-04T12:14:44Z")

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Someone told me that was a bannable exploit, and I want to know whether it is true and whether it is bannable.

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## [Work for CONCORD](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/work-for-concord/275969)

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**Author:** [@Shand\_434](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shand_434)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/work-for-concord/275969 "2020-12-04T10:02:12Z")

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Now that would be an interesting dynamic. Players taking ownership of policing EDEN.

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## [Dear CCP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp/283206)

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**Author:** [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-ccp/283206 "2020-12-04T04:58:17Z")

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If you’re going to have Trig fleets randomly appearing in high sec killing players, at least have the common decency to direct the Trigs to kill any Mobile Depots they find near stations / gates. Thx, The Playerbase be…

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## [Patch Notes for Version 18.11 (December 1st, 2020)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/patch-notes-for-version-18-11-december-1st-2020/283085)

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**Author:** [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [December 3, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/patch-notes-for-version-18-11-december-1st-2020/283085 "2020-12-03T23:17:25Z")

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Main changes: Game Systems: Dynamic Bounties System (DBS) parameters adjustments: Equilibrium value increased from 115% to 135% The maximum output of the DBS increased from 150% to 180% The recover to equilibrium rat…

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## [This pochven thing?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-pochven-thing/283369)

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**Author:** [@Aramatheia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aramatheia)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [December 3, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-pochven-thing/283369 "2020-12-03T18:27:43Z")

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Bit of a simple question really. I wanted to make myself a bit friendlier to these guys by finding some rogue drones in pochven and wrecking them for a bit. Now im one of those players who wasnt a part of the trigs v ede…

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## [Escalation Rate](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/escalation-rate/283315)

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**Author:** [@hyhrym123](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hyhrym123)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 3, 2020, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/escalation-rate/283315 "2020-12-03T08:46:39Z")

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Would like ask a question about escalation rate. I’ve been ratting in haven for a long time, in the past I normally got 1 escalation out of 20 haven sites, but recently I have ratted maybe 150 sites and haven’t got even …

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## [All of you, who believe the game is going to die](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-of-you-who-believe-the-game-is-going-to-die/281527)

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**Author:** [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [December 3, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/all-of-you-who-believe-the-game-is-going-to-die/281527 "2020-12-03T03:12:57Z")

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… please! Contract all your stuff … … and send all your ISK to … “Solstice Projekt’s TrustFund” (actual character) If you truly believe that the game is going to die … … then you have no use for all your stuff anymo…

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## [Bug report open for over 4 years. EBR-156245 - Can't leave chats](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-report-open-for-over-4-years-ebr-156245-cant-leave-chats/282252)

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**Author:** [@Acac\_Sunflyier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Acac_Sunflyier)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [December 2, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-report-open-for-over-4-years-ebr-156245-cant-leave-chats/282252 "2020-12-02T21:01:15Z")

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Over the years I’ve joined a lot of chat channels. Some of them are long since defunct. However, when attempting to purge these very old PLAYER channels from my channel list, they won’t go away. This has been rather frus…

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## [Another kick in the face, well done, CCP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-kick-in-the-face-well-done-ccp/273458)

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**Author:** [@Ghengis\_Tia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghengis_Tia)\
**Replies:** 147\
**Last updated:** [December 2, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-kick-in-the-face-well-done-ccp/273458 "2020-12-02T19:15:30Z")

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Not being interested in the new content cost me dearly. All the compressed ore I’ve been sitting on is now worth a fraction of what it was yesterday. I was too stupid to realize ore in hangars was going to be gutted of m…

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## [Talking in Stations Podcast, open mic, Name & shame FC's](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/talking-in-stations-podcast-open-mic-name-shame-fcs/283031)

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**Author:** [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/talking-in-stations-podcast-open-mic-name-shame-fcs/283031 "2020-12-01T23:09:11Z")

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Hello, Did anyone else listen to the last TiS? I normally listen at work on spotify during my podcast round ups but this one I had to cut short. The last episode was terrible owing to someone with an open mic & the most…

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## [Either it's a bug or a problematic feature, but you can open multiple Alpha/Omega accounts at the same time on the same computer](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/either-its-a-bug-or-a-problematic-feature-but-you-can-open-multiple-alpha-omega-accounts-at-the-same-time-on-the-same-computer/283051)

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**Author:** [@Orrion\_the\_Fox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orrion_the_Fox)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/either-its-a-bug-or-a-problematic-feature-but-you-can-open-multiple-alpha-omega-accounts-at-the-same-time-on-the-same-computer/283051 "2020-12-01T18:55:10Z")

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Supposedly the launcher prevents you from doing this, but there’s a problem: it doesn’t. You can have as many accounts of as many types open and doing things as the computer can handle. I asked about the legality before …

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## [Project Discovery bot network found](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/project-discovery-bot-network-found/282906)

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**Author:** [@RiotRick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RiotRick)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/project-discovery-bot-network-found/282906 "2020-12-01T01:28:00Z")

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Dear CCP, we seem to have found a Snip ~Buldath. We have emailed the results to security@ccpgames.com and linking it here as well.

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## [CCP against new and peaceful players](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-against-new-and-peaceful-players/282932)

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**Author:** [@Misaki\_Kyoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Misaki_Kyoko)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [November 30, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-against-new-and-peaceful-players/282932 "2020-11-30T21:58:32Z")

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I know, EvE is mayby better than real life its offer freedom, in some aspects ofc, you can do everything here, you can gank you can spy you can scam etc its ok, im not against, but come on a guy playing form 2006 got 2…

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## [Enough is enough: a newplayer feedback about income drop from CCP latest patchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/enough-is-enough-a-newplayer-feedback-about-income-drop-from-ccp-latest-patchs/281329)

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**Author:** [@Malaghen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malaghen)\
**Replies:** 177\
**Last updated:** [November 30, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/enough-is-enough-a-newplayer-feedback-about-income-drop-from-ccp-latest-patchs/281329 "2020-11-30T05:43:24Z")

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Hi all, As the title stated, enough is enough. For those who won’t bother reading the entire story, here is a summary: recent income nerfs from CCP are hitting too hard newer players like me, and are favorising a lot pl…

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## [Alpha clone wanting to do hordes](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-wanting-to-do-hordes/282779)

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**Author:** [@wolfstallion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/wolfstallion)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-wanting-to-do-hordes/282779 "2020-11-29T23:38:57Z")

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i am an alpha clone and want to do more then herds in my gila is there a ship with a fit that would allow an alpha clone to be able to solo hordes ??

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## [Null seck ess takes to much making ratting not worth it](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-seck-ess-takes-to-much-making-ratting-not-worth-it/281312)

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**Author:** [@Torvin\_Justicar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Torvin_Justicar)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-seck-ess-takes-to-much-making-ratting-not-worth-it/281312 "2020-11-29T10:31:07Z")

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People shold be pist i have spent 8 years playing eve and all i see ccp do is push players away so im done and if you think im wrong a single proper fit ishtar is about 350m to 450m will give you 17m a tick before ess an…

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## [Good Job CCP!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/good-job-ccp/282432)

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**Author:** [@Joe\_Monso](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joe_Monso)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/good-job-ccp/282432 "2020-11-29T04:51:34Z")

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Well Done, EVE is now 100% unplayable!

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## [New total net worth bug? ccplz](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-total-net-worth-bug-ccplz/282171)

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**Author:** [@batterfly\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/batterfly_Rin)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-total-net-worth-bug-ccplz/282171 "2020-11-28T20:55:52Z")

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So yesterday I logged in my character and surprisingly found that my total net worth increased from 50 b to 450 B in just one night, anyone knows what did ccp change makes some extremely high-value things after yesterday…

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## [Cant seem to pay for anything on the store without using steam now?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-seem-to-pay-for-anything-on-the-store-without-using-steam-now/282242)

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**Author:** [@Lyta\_Alexander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lyta_Alexander)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2020, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-seem-to-pay-for-anything-on-the-store-without-using-steam-now/282242 "2020-11-28T10:59:19Z")

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Heya I saw the black friday sales and figured id throw a few quid away on some plex for the lolz =) Unfortunately after logging into my account and clicking through to checkout I only get the ‘steam’ payment option. I d…

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## [State of The Game, 2020 Edition](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-game-2020-edition/281992)

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**Author:** [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Replies:** 168\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-game-2020-edition/281992 "2020-11-28T05:13:44Z")

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Most of you already know this. If you don’t, go to https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility to find out more. The game basically peaked 2012 to 2013, with 2014 marking the beginning of its visible decline. We can…

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## [Planetary Interaction Q's](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/planetary-interaction-qs/282093)

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**Author:** [@Father\_O\_Blivion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Father_O_Blivion)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/planetary-interaction-qs/282093 "2020-11-27T17:49:55Z")

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Hi: new player here and I had a few q’s: What are the reasons you would use an alt for planetary interaction, for example in reading about it some suggest training an alt. Could someone offer the pros/cons in regards to…

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## [Node Death (Market and Contracts) - 2020/11/26](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/node-death-market-and-contracts-2020-11-26/282004)

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**Author:** [@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Aurora)\
**Replies:** 84\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/node-death-market-and-contracts-2020-11-26/282004 "2020-11-27T15:40:26Z")

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We’re investigating a node death which has resulted in markets and contracts becoming inoperable in game. The issue is being worked on and we let you know here and on the EVE Status twitter account as more information b…

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## [Open Letter to CCP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/282151)

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**Author:** [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/282151 "2020-11-26T23:55:50Z")

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Dear CCP I know you’ll never read this post but it makes me feel good to post it anyway. I love your game. I enjoy myself everyday buying modules and ships and trying out different ways to fit them, figuring out what s…

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## [Happy 16th Birthday to the Ushra'Khan The oldest Alliance in New Eden](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/happy-16th-birthday-to-the-ushrakhan-the-oldest-alliance-in-new-eden/281710)

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**Author:** [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/happy-16th-birthday-to-the-ushrakhan-the-oldest-alliance-in-new-eden/281710 "2020-11-26T21:28:39Z")

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Happy 16th Birthday to the Ushra’Khan The oldest Alliance in New Eden

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## [Abyssal PVP in July, now Ressource wars - what is going on at the moment?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-in-july-now-ressource-wars-what-is-going-on-at-the-moment/280733)

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**Author:** [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-pvp-in-july-now-ressource-wars-what-is-going-on-at-the-moment/280733 "2020-11-26T15:13:24Z")

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From today’s patchnotes: Missions & NPCs: Resource Wars sites have stopped appearing in space for the time being while they are sent back to the workshop for some renovation and repurposing. What was the point behin…

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## [When were Alpha / Omega Clones introduced?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-were-alpha-omega-clones-introduced/281333)

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**Author:** [@Sayuri\_Akabashi1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sayuri_Akabashi1)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/when-were-alpha-omega-clones-introduced/281333 "2020-11-26T12:53:28Z")

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And have they been like they are now from the start or have there been changes in Alpha Clone restrictions since introduction? Thanks for all replies.

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## [Contract Ti-Di?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/contract-ti-di/282002)

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**Author:** [@Adanxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adanxx)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/contract-ti-di/282002 "2020-11-26T12:32:32Z")

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After downtime & patch… contracts seem to be on Ti-Di. 5 minutes after clicking the next button… “Non Empty ship warning” 5 minutes later after canceling the failed frozen contract… Cant make a new one cause “items a…

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## [Why did CCP knowingly & willfully break the drones?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-did-ccp-knowingly-willfully-break-the-drones/281885)

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**Author:** [@Richard\_Fellinger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Richard_Fellinger)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 25, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-did-ccp-knowingly-willfully-break-the-drones/281885 "2020-11-25T22:07:31Z")

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Is there anyone in favor of the new drone update that took effect today? Why does CCP keep engaging in behavior that is detrimental to gameplay and against the interests of their customer base?

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## [Need for Speed Contest - How fast can you go?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/need-for-speed-contest-how-fast-can-you-go/276328)

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**Author:** [@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Aurora)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/need-for-speed-contest-how-fast-can-you-go/276328 "2020-11-26T01:08:28Z")

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Velocity Blessed Capsuleers, Do you have a need for speed? With the recent overheat bonus added to combat interceptors we want to see just how fast you can go! We’re holding a short competition over the next week where…

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