# Market Discussions **URL:** https://forums.eveonline.com/c/marketplace/market-discussions/94.md?page=13 [Latest](https://forums.eveonline.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forums.eveonline.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forums.eveonline.com/tags.md) **Page:** 14 --- ## [PLEX price manipulation](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-price-manipulation/231527)
**Author:** [@TxivYawg1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TxivYawg1)\ **Replies:** 20\ **Last updated:** [April 12, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-price-manipulation/231527 "2020-04-12T00:30:20Z")
Anybody also notice the volatility in the PLEX price recently? Went from 3.3mil a pop down to 2.8mil and now it’s above 3.1mil and continue to climb back up. Almost seems like a price manipulation by those who have deep … --- ## [Talk About Emptying My Wallet](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/talk-about-emptying-my-wallet/229068)
**Author:** [@Far\_Wanderer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Far_Wanderer)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [April 11, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/talk-about-emptying-my-wallet/229068 "2020-04-11T01:18:18Z")
The changes to market order rules and to market related skills have done what CCP set out to do: empty my wallet of excess ISK. Obviously we are all targets in CCP’s crosshairs when it comes to reducing player ISK reser… --- ## [Why take away Margin Trading?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-take-away-margin-trading/221932)
**Author:** [@Red\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Serenity)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [April 9, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-take-away-margin-trading/221932 "2020-04-09T13:25:11Z")
Margin Trading is in every aspect of financial markets outside of the game. Taking it out of Eve Online, reduces players ability to act as a larger competitor. This will only help the richer players who have the capital… --- ## [Are there any active bulk buying channels/discord groups?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-active-bulk-buying-channels-discord-groups/230096)
**Author:** [@Anoop\_Amilupar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anoop_Amilupar)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [April 6, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-active-bulk-buying-channels-discord-groups/230096 "2020-04-06T10:27:08Z")
Is there an active bulk buying channel around these days or is nobody doing that anymore? --- ## [Lf super quick collateralized 1b loan](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lf-super-quick-collateralized-1b-loan/229906)
**Author:** [@darkislife\_zhang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkislife_zhang)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [April 4, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lf-super-quick-collateralized-1b-loan/229906 "2020-04-04T19:28:45Z")
Collateralized: http://evepraisal.com/a/pw8mi All abyssal mods are faction/deadspace base with unstable mutaplasmids Duration: 1 week Interest 2.5% --- ## [📈 Updated EVE Market Order Broker and Relist Fees Infographic (brought to you by USIA)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-eve-market-order-broker-and-relist-fees-infographic-brought-to-you-by-usia/226620)
**Author:** [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [March 31, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-eve-market-order-broker-and-relist-fees-infographic-brought-to-you-by-usia/226620 "2020-03-31T00:55:38Z")
Good EVEning! Several years ago, Thoraemond created an infographic to depict the relationship between Corp/Faction Standings and Broker Fees. This infographic has become badly out of date by at least two massive economi… --- ## [Is it even worthwhile to sell things in lowsec?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-even-worthwhile-to-sell-things-in-lowsec/228260)
**Author:** [@Kayagainen\_Iwalula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kayagainen_Iwalula)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [March 29, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-even-worthwhile-to-sell-things-in-lowsec/228260 "2020-03-29T08:04:11Z")
So I’ve always been a proponent of selling things away from market hubs, making my prices as low as possible and using sites like EveMarketer to verify all of that. I’ve managed to sell things I’d receive from exploratio… --- ## [Loans and Tax Farming](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loans-and-tax-farming/227518)
**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [March 27, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loans-and-tax-farming/227518 "2020-03-27T13:01:14Z")
I just can’t figure out the concept of loans or tax farming in EvE. There’s no way to truly invest in anything, because to build trust, you have to exchange something of equal value? Word of mouth isn’t good enough and … --- ## [First EVE loan](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-eve-loan/227835)
**Author:** [@Honest\_Investment\_Banker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honest_Investment_Banker)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [March 26, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-eve-loan/227835 "2020-03-26T22:57:06Z")
Hi all, Looking to start a very lucrative new business in Gallente space. I have done my research and while i cannot give any specifics due to potential competition I do need to secure a small series of loans to get t… --- ## [Hello](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hello/225776)
**Author:** [@Dudemeister\_Yakuza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dudemeister_Yakuza)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [March 15, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hello/225776 "2020-03-15T22:46:31Z")
Hello --- ## [Travelling trader](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/travelling-trader/226580)
**Author:** [@Deirdre\_Locke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Locke)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [March 20, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/travelling-trader/226580 "2020-03-20T19:48:41Z")
Hey all, I’m still new to this game and came here from Elite Dangerous where trading is mostly done by moving stuff around (like a trading caravan), flying around to find the best deals. I realise EVE is very different … --- ## [How to master trading?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-master-trading/226392)
**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-master-trading/226392 "2020-03-19T22:59:33Z")
The best piece of advice I can give to beginners in trading, as a beginner in trading myself, is I think that trading comes down to metrics, knowing what to look for and how to get there. I think I’m on the right track.… --- ## [Market Performance Evaluation](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-performance-evaluation/226337)
**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-performance-evaluation/226337 "2020-03-19T22:54:31Z")
This thread is for everyone to just chatter about their performance. Not centered on me…but for me… Well today is the first day of real trading. I’m not interested in %margin as a measure of success, just interested in … --- ## [Structure Trading](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/structure-trading/226495)
**Author:** [@LuNaRiAn\_SeRpEnT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LuNaRiAn_SeRpEnT)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/structure-trading/226495 "2020-03-19T12:56:34Z")
I am noticing a lot of idle complexes littering the moons in high sec. Is there a forum dedicated for buying and selling anchored structures? --- ## [Can't figure new Market Out](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-figure-new-market-out/226288)
**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cant-figure-new-market-out/226288 "2020-03-19T02:28:32Z")
I don’t have time for this, I am busy/gone for 3 months and the entire market game looks different? Modify orders now cost 1%? Can only increment by 100,000isk? (Is this based on percent/skill?) My Buy order says 1.3% … --- ## [Auto increment on orders is annoying, maybe screwing over buyers?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-increment-on-orders-is-annoying-maybe-screwing-over-buyers/225786)
**Author:** [@dfsaqwe\_dfsaqwe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfsaqwe_dfsaqwe)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [March 16, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-increment-on-orders-is-annoying-maybe-screwing-over-buyers/225786 "2020-03-16T10:48:31Z")
I understand the point of the market change, I have no quips with that. BUT the user experience change is annoying. Before, whatever time range I had set, the default price in the window would always be whatever highes… --- ## [Covered](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/covered/225842)
**Author:** [@darkislife\_zhang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkislife_zhang)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [March 14, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/covered/225842 "2020-03-14T23:04:09Z")
Loan duration: 1 week Interest: 5% --- ## [Buy order not showing on market (sorry I was in the different region)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/buy-order-not-showing-on-market-sorry-i-was-in-the-different-region/225547)
**Author:** [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [March 13, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/buy-order-not-showing-on-market-sorry-i-was-in-the-different-region/225547 "2020-03-13T09:19:54Z")
Today I had placed an order for 1500 plex @ 3,219,000.00 isk ea Now the market is showing highest buyers price is 3,073,000.00 (sellers being 3,346,427.00) I am not seeing my order on the market only as still active on… --- ## [Problems with instant orders](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/problems-with-instant-orders/225374)
**Author:** [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [March 13, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/problems-with-instant-orders/225374 "2020-03-13T06:45:51Z")
Hi, since yesterday evening I noticed that I can no longer immediate sell my items. Usually I put the items in the hangar item, then I select 10 at a time, right click and choose Sell this item and the sale is instantane… --- ## [Market Speculation on Broker Relations Update](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-speculation-on-broker-relations-update/224511)
**Author:** [@Oogleberry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oogleberry)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [March 12, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-speculation-on-broker-relations-update/224511 "2020-03-12T14:23:23Z")
I haven’t seen any thoughts / analysis on here how traders expect the market to adapt to the broker relations update. Thought I’d share my speculation and learn from others’ insights. There are a few changes coming on t… --- ## [Abyssal market sharp decline](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-market-sharp-decline/224588)
**Author:** [@Jakques\_DeMolay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakques_DeMolay)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [March 10, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-market-sharp-decline/224588 "2020-03-10T21:33:13Z")
Any takers on recent significant abyssal market decline? Given that some filaments skyrocketed, looks like a lot more players engaging in abyssal farming, yet industry demand is shrinking ( lack of wars? ) any ideas or… --- ## [Scarlet Trading - 10b Uncollateralized Loan @ 5%](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarlet-trading-10b-uncollateralized-loan-5/221271)
**Author:** [@Vile\_Belief](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vile_Belief)\ **Replies:** 51\ **Last updated:** [March 10, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scarlet-trading-10b-uncollateralized-loan-5/221271 "2020-03-10T14:28:17Z")
Greetings, This is my third loan over the course of my career, first loan of this year. It’s a uncollaterized loan as noted by a reason below for a higher than average interest rate due to the higher risk involved. My… --- ## [Extract and inject logic vs. selling a toon](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/extract-and-inject-logic-vs-selling-a-toon/223442)
**Author:** [@Busty\_Brown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Busty_Brown)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [March 5, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/extract-and-inject-logic-vs-selling-a-toon/223442 "2020-03-05T04:01:52Z")
Hi, can someone please explain to me at what point is selling a toon not smart move (considering ISK for it) in corellation with buying and extracting skills … and then injecting them into some new toon. Mathematically … --- ## [In-game Loan System Theory](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-game-loan-system-theory/223758)
**Author:** [@TxivYawg1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TxivYawg1)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [March 5, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-game-loan-system-theory/223758 "2020-03-05T03:42:59Z")
Here is how in-game loan can be implemented easily. the char taking the loan needs to secure it with its skill point. it needs to specify how much SP or skill injector will be used to secure the loan. This can be in th… --- ## [Looking for a loan (2, 4, or 6b), collateralized @2.5%](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-a-loan-2-4-or-6b-collateralized-2-5/222233)
**Author:** [@darkislife\_zhang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkislife_zhang)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [March 3, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-a-loan-2-4-or-6b-collateralized-2-5/222233 "2020-03-03T18:31:21Z")
Loan collateral will be in abyssal mods. Around 90% mutaplasmid.space estimated value. If you don’t want to loan 6b because you don’t want to risk it, you can loan me in intervals of 2b. Interest will be 2.5% a month. … --- ## [Ice Products](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ice-products/222152)
**Author:** [@McGlow\_s\_Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/McGlow_s_Slave)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [February 26, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ice-products/222152 "2020-02-26T22:32:59Z")
Hi everyone. Does anyone know the reason why Ice Products are getting lower and lower (Strontium Clathrates and Heavy Water, for example)? They might be in a 2~3 year low at this point. --- ## [Buy / Sell mechanics of Skill Books when purchased via Character Sheet](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/buy-sell-mechanics-of-skill-books-when-purchased-via-character-sheet/222407)
**Author:** [@Sehi\_Ehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sehi_Ehr)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [February 26, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/buy-sell-mechanics-of-skill-books-when-purchased-via-character-sheet/222407 "2020-02-26T20:52:32Z")
Curious about the market mechanics when someone purchased a skill book using the Buy and Train button when hovering the skill in their character sheet. Does it create a skill book out of thin air? Does it match the nea… --- ## [Bot Miners - The Liquid Ozon Market Dumping](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bot-miners-the-liquid-ozon-market-dumping/222231)
**Author:** [@Global\_Fusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Global_Fusion)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [February 26, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bot-miners-the-liquid-ozon-market-dumping/222231 "2020-02-26T04:02:38Z")
The Liquid Ozon Market Dumping has ten folded recently… Funny enough there is an offer of a real player in between Do you see it ? :face\_with\_hand\_over\_mouth: @CCP\_Dopamine --- ## [Looking for Corporate Acquisition](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-corporate-acquisition/221702)
**Author:** [@Not\_A\_Ruse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Not_A_Ruse)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [February 25, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-corporate-acquisition/221702 "2020-02-25T15:41:05Z")
I’m looking to take over a small personal corporation established 2019 or earlier (prefer earlier). Should be pretty straightforward, subject to the following: Before ownership change, corp must have no other members,… --- ## [Did I ruin my region or did CCP?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-i-ruin-my-region-or-did-ccp/215534)
**Author:** [@MyLoudVoice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MyLoudVoice)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [February 18, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-i-ruin-my-region-or-did-ccp/215534 "2020-02-18T19:46:31Z")
Being tired of shooting I started in October 2019 with a “buy ore, refine it, sell the minerals.” idea. And that in a region that is rather quiet on all fronts if you look at the economic reports. And in High-Sec. Solo… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/marketplace/market-discussions/94.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/marketplace/market-discussions/94.md?page=14)