# Market Discussions

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## [Do people actually invest in new startups?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-people-actually-invest-in-new-startups/203633)

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**Author:** [@Red\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Serenity)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 3, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/do-people-actually-invest-in-new-startups/203633 "2019-12-03T01:26:37Z")

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How hard is it to get investment into an idea? I have played on and off since 2007. I have almost always had my own corp which I used to manage POS’s and large volumes of contracts. I am currently debating to launch a …

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## [Isk-\>plex-\>store-\>isk(profit?) calculator](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isk-plex-store-isk-profit-calculator/203844)

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**Author:** [@Suz1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suz1)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 2, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isk-plex-store-isk-profit-calculator/203844 "2019-12-02T01:28:48Z")

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I’ve been wondering how profitable it might be to buy plex with Isk, use the plex in the new Eden store, and sell the items back in-game for Isk profit, rinse and repeat. There are so many items available in the new Ede…

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## [Fuel Blocks too cheap?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fuel-blocks-too-cheap/201260)

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**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fuel-blocks-too-cheap/201260 "2019-11-29T05:29:23Z")

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Fuel blocks seem to be too cheap. The economy is losing money on them even if some individuals think they are profiting. Is this just the nature of economics? Theoretically the cost to produce something should equilibr…

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## [\[WIP\] Market Warfare Techniques](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-market-warfare-techniques/201734)

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**Author:** [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-market-warfare-techniques/201734 "2019-11-28T02:34:19Z")

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The OP will constantly be edited for new techniques. I have little market experience. This thread will be for me to hone my skills, share and discuss the concepts as I see them, and learn from others. Techniques Buy …

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## [Stupid Question about calculating ROI](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stupid-question-about-calculating-roi/202700)

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**Author:** [@Bhisma\_Ataaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bhisma_Ataaru)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stupid-question-about-calculating-roi/202700 "2019-11-26T20:43:06Z")

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When I first got started trading in EVE I was doing station-flipping and calculating ROI using the very basic formula: (revenue-costs)/costs and similarly for margin: (revenue-costs)/revenue I was setting the costs as …

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## [Does having a negative sec status devalue a toon when selling?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-having-a-negative-sec-status-devalue-a-toon-when-selling/193873)

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**Author:** [@Sportaclez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sportaclez)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 22, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-having-a-negative-sec-status-devalue-a-toon-when-selling/193873 "2019-11-22T01:12:15Z")

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Title has my question. Just curious. Thanks

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## [Nullsec Market Seeding](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-market-seeding/201945)

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**Author:** [@Rhayn\_Rowe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhayn_Rowe)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 21, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-market-seeding/201945 "2019-11-21T17:14:05Z")

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Hey there, just wanted to know if most nullsec home stations of corps/alliances are well seeded. Looking to possibly move to somewhere that offers lots of pvp, but kinda pointless if most of the time i’d have to spend in…

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## [Could I borrow 125k from someone?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/could-i-borrow-125k-from-someone/193038)

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**Author:** [@Vanu\_rak\_Taboo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vanu_rak_Taboo)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 18, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/could-i-borrow-125k-from-someone/193038 "2019-11-18T14:36:47Z")

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Would anyone be willing to lend me 125k for a short while please? :upside\_down\_face:

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## [Transaction tool?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transaction-tool/201206)

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**Author:** [@SkittlesKid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SkittlesKid)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 17, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transaction-tool/201206 "2019-11-17T11:25:51Z")

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Hi dear people of eve! I have just started playing this wonderful game, but are there an easy way to keep track of your trading? Sorry if its a dumb question. Kind Regards SkittleKid

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## [\[Filled\] 52B Loan](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/filled-52b-loan/200580)

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**Author:** [@Styx\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Styx_Saken)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 17, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/filled-52b-loan/200580 "2019-11-17T03:39:41Z")

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I have received appropriate collateral from @Iedan in exchange for 52 B. The collateral has been contracted back for 53.5 B (including about 2.9% interest). The loan expires on 2019-12-12.

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## [Banning botters increases the plex of price](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-botters-increases-the-plex-of-price/199830)

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**Author:** [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 15, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-botters-increases-the-plex-of-price/199830 "2019-11-15T12:34:40Z")

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3.5 million plex gone from the economy CCPlease kill more bots we need higher plex prices

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## [\[Filled\] 13 B Loan](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/filled-13-b-loan/187647)

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**Author:** [@Styx\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Styx_Saken)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/filled-13-b-loan/187647 "2019-11-14T01:54:24Z")

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I am lending 13 B to Niklas Gemund. I am holding appropriate collateral, which has been contracted back to him for 13.4 B (including about 3% interest). This amount will increase to 13.8 B on 2019-10-04, and to 14.2 B on…

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## [Abyssal Trading - Any Mod - Any Budget](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-trading-any-mod-any-budget/194325)

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**Author:** [@MurderDeathKill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MurderDeathKill)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 8, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-trading-any-mod-any-budget/194325 "2019-11-08T00:28:59Z")

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\-Appraisals -Auctions -Giveaways -Eve’s #1 Abyssal Trading Forum

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## [3.5B ISK 1 Month Collateralized Loan @ 3%](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-5b-isk-1-month-collateralized-loan-3/198846)

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**Author:** [@OmahaStationTrades\_BattleMachin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OmahaStationTrades_BattleMachin)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 5, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-5b-isk-1-month-collateralized-loan-3/198846 "2019-11-05T16:15:08Z")

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I’m looking for a 3.5B ISK 1 Month Collateralized Loan @ 3%. Collateral is 5 Concord Capital Shield Booster and 4 Concord Capital 25000mm Steel Plate BPC’s. Every BPC is 5 run. I valued each BPC cheaply at 420m ISK mea…

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## [Are Uncollateralized Loans possible?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-uncollateralized-loans-possible/198349)

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**Author:** [@The\_NewGuy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_NewGuy)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 31, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-uncollateralized-loans-possible/198349 "2019-10-31T10:37:30Z")

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Are Uncollateralized Loans possible? Kind of like real life

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## [What Does the Newly Announced "Global Plex Market in Jita" Mean for Plex Prices?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-the-newly-announced-global-plex-market-in-jita-mean-for-plex-prices/197732)

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**Author:** [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 30, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-the-newly-announced-global-plex-market-in-jita-mean-for-plex-prices/197732 "2019-10-30T02:18:08Z")

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CCP announced a new global Plex market is coming to new eden later this year or early next year, via Eve Vegas Keynote. It will allow players to buy/sell plex in jita from anywhere in the game at anytime. My understand…

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## [Scammers in Jita, jita Scam Market Size per Anum?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scammers-in-jita-jita-scam-market-size-per-anum/195913)

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**Author:** [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 29, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/scammers-in-jita-jita-scam-market-size-per-anum/195913 "2019-10-29T18:47:59Z")

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So I spent some time going through the finished contracts of a very consistent jita local contract spammer, needless to say I was Shocked, this person has made over 65 billion isk this past year alone! Does anyone know…

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## [Where are the lowsec trading hubs?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-lowsec-trading-hubs/181121)

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**Author:** [@Moinhyeni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moinhyeni)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 28, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-are-the-lowsec-trading-hubs/181121 "2019-10-28T14:10:27Z")

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Hi all. I’m about a month in and deciding what I want to do in the game. One thing I thought would be fun/interesting was lowsec-to-lowsec trade routes, very small scale, between player structures. Having a look on th…

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## [Are these buyorder spikes of PLEX a good thing?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-these-buyorder-spikes-of-plex-a-good-thing/197918)

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**Author:** [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 27, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-these-buyorder-spikes-of-plex-a-good-thing/197918 "2019-10-27T23:09:10Z")

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It’s an increase of roughly one million buys per (less than) 30 days ever since the BlackOut ended. That sounds like a lot to me, and it increased by roughly a million per month now. I understand that there’s goin…

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## [Gas Prices Going up in the future?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gas-prices-going-up-in-the-future/197807)

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**Author:** [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gas-prices-going-up-in-the-future/197807 "2019-10-26T19:28:29Z")

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Just announced on the live stream via CCP Twitch at Eve Vegas day 2, @CCP\_Rise said ccp is looking at changing manufacturing rates of gas to create more demand for the gas mined in WH space, to help players who mine reso…

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## [\[BOND\] 40Billion fully collateralised @ 2% for 3 months](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bond-40billion-fully-collateralised-2-for-3-months/167036)

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**Author:** [@Thousandaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thousandaire)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bond-40billion-fully-collateralised-2-for-3-months/167036 "2019-10-26T12:50:39Z")

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This is a 40 Billion ISK bond with 2% interest per month. 80 bonds at 500 million each. Price of bond - 500 million each Number of bonds - 80 Interest - 2% per month (paid at bond conclusion) Length - 3 month (12 wee…

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## [Application Closed. Please Lock/Delete/\[im not sure how it works. ty\]](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/application-closed-please-lock-delete-im-not-sure-how-it-works-ty/196085)

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**Author:** [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/application-closed-please-lock-delete-im-not-sure-how-it-works-ty/196085 "2019-10-26T00:48:12Z")

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Loan: 2 Billion ISK, or whatever value the two Capital BPO’s are determined to have. Collateral: \*Minokawa Blueprint ME:8 TE:0 \*Capital Cargo Bay Blueprint 10/20 Interest: This is my first in game loan, but I have co…

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## [FW Store - Impact of agents blockade](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-store-impact-of-agents-blockade/196273)

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**Author:** [@Strepan\_Dorsett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strepan_Dorsett)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-store-impact-of-agents-blockade/196273 "2019-10-18T20:11:03Z")

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TL/DR : no FW item can reach 6K isk/lp without killing its own market o/ all, The announcement of the lock-down by the Amarr and Minmatar militias of their own FW mission agents prompted a lot of support but also unfor…

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## [Hulk - (maybe) Collector Item](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hulk-maybe-collector-item/196429)

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**Author:** [@Sofalord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sofalord)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hulk-maybe-collector-item/196429 "2019-10-20T07:26:29Z")

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I found an old Hulk in my assets with the following fitting (Fittet in 3 Highslots and Large Rigs) : Can you please give me an advice if someone is interested in such an item and what should i get from it? Kind Rega…

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## [Got a pretty sweet roll on this X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, any idea how much is it worth roughly? (Maybe WTS)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/got-a-pretty-sweet-roll-on-this-x-large-ancillary-shield-booster-any-idea-how-much-is-it-worth-roughly-maybe-wts/195803)

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**Author:** [@Kano\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kano_Black)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/got-a-pretty-sweet-roll-on-this-x-large-ancillary-shield-booster-any-idea-how-much-is-it-worth-roughly-maybe-wts/195803 "2019-10-15T11:26:30Z")

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## [Mexallon pricedrop ?!?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mexallon-pricedrop/190799)

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**Author:** [@ze\_braaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ze_braaa)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mexallon-pricedrop/190799 "2019-10-14T12:08:45Z")

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hello everyone, mex is dropping hard. lowest seen so far. Will it drop more? What is the reason for it? what is your forecast on this? up/down? ze braaa

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## [The Economic Effect of the Blackout on NS (and Bot Banning?)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economic-effect-of-the-blackout-on-ns-and-bot-banning/189912)

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**Author:** [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economic-effect-of-the-blackout-on-ns-and-bot-banning/189912 "2019-10-13T16:40:56Z")

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Caveat: Part of these effects could be due to the banning of bots in August 2019 which of course is a good thing. I took the August 2018 and 2019 data from the MERs and did a comparison by NS region. The overall reduc…

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## [Source of Dominix Navy Issue BPCs](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/source-of-dominix-navy-issue-bpcs/193887)

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**Author:** [@Zaphod\_Stevenson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaphod_Stevenson)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/source-of-dominix-navy-issue-bpcs/193887 "2019-10-06T18:18:00Z")

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I see contracts with Dominix Navy Issue BPCs for sale but I can’t found their original source. They don’t appear to be available from any of the LP stores. Does anyone know their source? Thanks in advance.

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## [Are people just not paying attention or is there a reason behund this?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-people-just-not-paying-attention-or-is-there-a-reason-behund-this/192989)

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**Author:** [@Anmeria\_Po](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anmeria_Po)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-people-just-not-paying-attention-or-is-there-a-reason-behund-this/192989 "2019-09-30T06:10:28Z")

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I imagine questions like this appear on the forums fairly regularly, but was wondering if anyone had insight into this approach to undercutting: The buy price for this item was at 2.2mil last night, and i sold a good 30…

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## [Out of curiousity, has anyone seen or is holding this BCU i rolled a while back?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/out-of-curiousity-has-anyone-seen-or-is-holding-this-bcu-i-rolled-a-while-back/191647)

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**Author:** [@Larrett\_G\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Larrett_G_Yassavi)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/out-of-curiousity-has-anyone-seen-or-is-holding-this-bcu-i-rolled-a-while-back/191647 "2019-09-22T00:01:00Z")

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this amazing thing i rolled net me 7b and is my best abyssal roll to date, if anyone is holding it or knows the owner, id like to know, the feeling of obtaining this was amazing and i hope it has served many buyers alo…

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