# PvE Ships & Modules

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## [Worth blinging a Lvl 4 mission ship?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950)

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**Author:** [@Orren\_Grund](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orren_Grund)\
**Replies:** 84\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950 "2018-09-18T18:59:05Z")

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So long story short. My mission runner has been doing Lvl 4 Security missions for Brutor Tribe in a copy-paste Maelstrom from UniWiki, except for T2 guns (all primary/support skills for it at V). It’s not so expensive th…

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## [Loki. projectiles or missiles?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loki-projectiles-or-missiles/107150)

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**Author:** [@SWAGGETTI\_delConte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SWAGGETTI_delConte)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loki-projectiles-or-missiles/107150 "2018-09-18T13:06:51Z")

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Hi Im thinking to learn skills to fly Loki. But I see alot of fits with missiles. I want to know the opinion of pros about pve Loki, including DED sites and Expeditions. And why most people use missiles over projectiles…

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## [Ice mining ships for null](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ice-mining-ships-for-null/91175)

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**Author:** [@Albert\_Skord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Albert_Skord)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ice-mining-ships-for-null/91175 "2018-09-18T04:53:36Z")

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It’s impossible to fit a tank on a Covetor or Hulk for ice mining in null. I can fit a tank on the Procurer, which is not bonused for ice mining, and can’t fit even 1 ice drone. (Maybe add smaller ice drones, that mine …

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## [Medium ship for Null Sec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/medium-ship-for-null-sec/106745)

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**Author:** [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/medium-ship-for-null-sec/106745 "2018-09-17T15:53:09Z")

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Oï ! It’s been a while since I started to run some anomalies in nullsec (daytripping), I’m generally using the dumb VNI with oversized afterburner. I would like to know, what ships could perform well in 0.0 anomalies or…

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## [Battleship for Angel Active Ratting - need advice and fits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187)

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**Author:** [@Pewkins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pewkins)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187 "2018-09-17T09:11:25Z")

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Which will be better for active Null-Sec ratting in anomalies without paying stupid ISK for bling? So i can fly Rattlesnake and Machcariel, most popular ones, pretty well. Spaceship skills are all 5 for them.Torps and …

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## [Vexor Navy Issue Needs Changeing](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vexor-navy-issue-needs-changeing/105349)

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**Author:** [@Shimmer\_UK](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shimmer_UK)\
**Replies:** 67\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vexor-navy-issue-needs-changeing/105349 "2018-09-16T17:04:54Z")

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So my issue with them is there overpowered I feel the change that needs to happen is to drop them from 125 m.3 Bandwidth down to 100 m.3. Reasoning is simple at the moment as they stand they make Heavy Assault Cruiser I…

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## [Can anyone suggest a training plan for getting into VNI ratting](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-anyone-suggest-a-training-plan-for-getting-into-vni-ratting/104488)

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**Author:** [@Owyn\_Zat\_nik\_tel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Owyn_Zat_nik_tel)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/can-anyone-suggest-a-training-plan-for-getting-into-vni-ratting/104488 "2018-09-11T07:50:58Z")

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Looking to get my skills in order and have a plan for ratting and running lvl 2 missions atm then work up to a VNI. I currently have a vexor, with a full flight of federation navy hammerheads I can get 200 DPS and 23k EH…

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## [Higher scan strength in Probe than in Heron](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/higher-scan-strength-in-probe-than-in-heron/104720)

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**Author:** [@Nickholo\_Fidard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nickholo_Fidard)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/higher-scan-strength-in-probe-than-in-heron/104720 "2018-09-10T08:11:02Z")

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Hi everybody, I have a question regarding the scan strength calculation: I have been flying a Probe for a some time, and the scan strength bonus of my Probe is 30% despite a level 2 mastery level. Now I would like to …

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## [WREATHE fitting for High- and Low-Sec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590)

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**Author:** [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\
**Replies:** 39\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590 "2018-09-10T07:54:18Z")

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WREATHE fitting for High- and Low-Sec Hi all. I was wondering about these “normal” fittings for a hauler. Most of them are ■■■■. This fitting is based upon these ideas: It has to be cheap and working for Alpha Playe…

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## [Dealing w/ Leshaks and Abyssal space questions](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-w-leshaks-and-abyssal-space-questions/102802)

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**Author:** [@The\_Larold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Larold)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dealing-w-leshaks-and-abyssal-space-questions/102802 "2018-09-08T16:14:39Z")

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I just took a Gila loss in a Fierce Firestorm. 4 leshaks (1 neuting) spawned at about 50km with help from 2 TP’ing frigates. I turned away and tried to AB away out of range from them while sending my 2 Hammerheads at the…

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## [Autothysian Lancer questions](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/autothysian-lancer-questions/102869)

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**Author:** [@Licio\_Caleb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Licio_Caleb)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/autothysian-lancer-questions/102869 "2018-09-03T21:01:37Z")

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Hey! Can I take the pack of 3-4 of these guys in low sec using a glass cannon destroyer or frig? I plan to orbit at 1000km and “speed tank” them. What about the BS that will come? how much dps will I need to break its…

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## [Lv-4 Blitz Machariel (Quite Cheap)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lv-4-blitz-machariel-quite-cheap/101604)

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**Author:** [@Castor\_Antollare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Castor_Antollare)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lv-4-blitz-machariel-quite-cheap/101604 "2018-09-01T02:03:06Z")

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How’s this look for a beginner blitz Machariel. Bling can be applied, but currently this will cost a cool 550 million. Not too shabby. \[Machariel, Rust Bucket\] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II G…

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## [Brutix lvl 4 viable mission runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brutix-lvl-4-viable-mission-runner/98302)

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**Author:** [@Dimvel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dimvel_en_Daire)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brutix-lvl-4-viable-mission-runner/98302 "2018-08-31T11:17:41Z")

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Unwilling to go for a BS, I patched up this Brutix to run some lvl4 missions from time to time. for now it does pretty well for a BC: 651 dps with guns, + 79 (102.5) dps from the drones in mid- and close range. with u…

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## [Abyssal rat resistances confusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-rat-resistances-confusion/101287)

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**Author:** [@Nuke\_Cherenkov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuke_Cherenkov)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 29, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-rat-resistances-confusion/101287 "2018-08-29T08:06:31Z")

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I’m confused about Abyss rat resists. Suitonia https://suitonia.wordpress.com/2018/05/28/the-demons-which-lurk-in-the-abyss/ Prefix Shield HP Armor HP Hull HP Shield Resists (Em/Tm/Ki/Ex) Armor Resists (Em/Tm/Ki/Ex) Hu…

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## [Question about Raging/L4 Abyssal fit](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-about-raging-l4-abyssal-fit/90813)

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**Author:** [@UMEE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/UMEE)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 28, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/question-about-raging-l4-abyssal-fit/90813 "2018-08-28T03:02:44Z")

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\[Ishtar, T2 Abyssal\] Armor Explosive Hardener II Assault Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II 10MN Afterburner II Republic Fleet …

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## [Getting NPCs off you at close range](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-npcs-off-you-at-close-range/100747)

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**Author:** [@Iowa\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iowa_Jones)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [August 27, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-npcs-off-you-at-close-range/100747 "2018-08-27T09:45:23Z")

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OK there has to be a tactic for this. I fly Amarr so use lasers. Long range shots are great but as soon as NPCs get to \<10km, I have a hard time hitting them. I’ve used pulse weapons with faster tracking with limited r…

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## [Abyssal Yoloing](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-yoloing/99428)

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**Author:** [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 24, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-yoloing/99428 "2018-08-24T04:13:26Z")

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Here’s how you do it: Fit out T1 cruiser for T1-2 abyss. Cap stable. Include Web/scram. Vexor works great. keep it around 30-40 mil. Drop your trace in a busy lowsec system on grid with a gate or FW plex, 1000km of…

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## [Abyssal Hate & Loss Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-hate-loss-thread/99779)

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**Author:** [@Remove\_Local\_FromNullsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remove_Local_FromNullsec)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 23, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-hate-loss-thread/99779 "2018-08-23T10:04:35Z")

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??? whot

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## [Abyssal: Salvaging Triglavian Bioadaptive Cache Wreck?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-salvaging-triglavian-bioadaptive-cache-wreck/81439)

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**Author:** [@Harkon\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harkon_Tsero)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-salvaging-triglavian-bioadaptive-cache-wreck/81439 "2018-08-21T17:07:54Z")

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I fitted a Salvager II to my Gila, just to try and give salvaging the wreck of the Bioadaptive Cache Wreck a go after looting it. So far, I’ve attempted 21 salvages, with no luck/nothing of value (and it seems to take lo…

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## [T1 Dark low SP alpha advice needed](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t1-dark-low-sp-alpha-advice-needed/98918)

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**Author:** [@kekl0rd420](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kekl0rd420)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t1-dark-low-sp-alpha-advice-needed/98918 "2018-08-20T01:26:53Z")

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Yo I wanna participate in the upcoming event by doing atleast T1 sites but I have low skills except the T2 medium drones. I was thinking of doing T1 Darks in a cheap fit gila that would rely mainly on drones cuz the lau…

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## [Rigor catalyst question](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rigor-catalyst-question/99131)

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**Author:** [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/rigor-catalyst-question/99131 "2018-08-19T18:34:56Z")

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I’ve seen forum posts that claim that rigor catalysts only work on guided missiles, not unguided. However when I read the description of the module, it says nothing about only working on guided missiles. Explain.

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## [Polarized weapon fits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/polarized-weapon-fits/88909)

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**Author:** [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/polarized-weapon-fits/88909 "2018-08-19T16:57:29Z")

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Do any of you use them in pve?If you do for what types of pve and what hulls.The zero resistance penalty I find is quite harsh

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## [Angel Space rat aggro](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/angel-space-rat-aggro/99005)

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**Author:** [@Dao\_Mao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dao_Mao)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/angel-space-rat-aggro/99005 "2018-08-19T07:24:04Z")

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I have recently moved to angel nullsec space, while ratting in my 100mn vni i noticed that there are always 2-3 rats that will only yellow box and will not draw aggro from my drones. i have tried changing to a closer orb…

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## [Drone regions exploration - still worth it?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-regions-exploration-still-worth-it/98466)

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**Author:** [@Bowles\_Gintis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bowles_Gintis)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2018, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drone-regions-exploration-still-worth-it/98466 "2018-08-17T05:51:58Z")

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I watched an old video about data hacking in Drone regions and it being more profitable than other forms of null exploration. Does that still hold up?

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## [Cheap drone boat](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheap-drone-boat/97095)

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**Author:** [@Josiff\_Michael](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josiff_Michael)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheap-drone-boat/97095 "2018-08-16T22:28:52Z")

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i recently lost my vni because i got ganked while i left more like 20 seconds during a ded site so im crazy broke rn and im looking for a cheapo drone boat that will help me not be broke via ded sites even low level one…

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## [Venture vs Prospect](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/venture-vs-prospect/98451)

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**Author:** [@Tian\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tian_Toralen)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/venture-vs-prospect/98451 "2018-08-16T16:47:43Z")

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Prospect should be able to mine gas faster, else there is no reason to use a Prospect instead of a Venture. Prospect is 50x more expensive and has no +2 warp core strength. Mines same amount of gas. Why use it? CCP sh…

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## [Hurricane Fleet issue for low sec ratting](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hurricane-fleet-issue-for-low-sec-ratting/98450)

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**Author:** [@Raltar\_Alland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raltar_Alland)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hurricane-fleet-issue-for-low-sec-ratting/98450 "2018-08-16T11:14:52Z")

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Trying to make a fitting that allows me to take out rats from afar and deal with any pesky gankers that come by. thanks for taking a look :smiley: Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer Counterbalanced Compact Gyrosta…

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## [Supercarrier ratting spawns nerf](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/supercarrier-ratting-spawns-nerf/85327)

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**Author:** [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/supercarrier-ratting-spawns-nerf/85327 "2018-08-15T06:48:47Z")

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From some of my personal experience ratting in a nyx for 3-5 hours some days I have noticed a huge drop in battleship commander spawns and npc capital spawns. On the other hand ratting with a single or duo nightmare I g…

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## [Drake fittings](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drake-fittings/91620)

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**Author:** [@Josiff\_Michael](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josiff_Michael)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/drake-fittings/91620 "2018-08-15T00:28:12Z")

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I just wanted to know how my fittings for my drake is and if there is anything i should add in the empty high power slot or anything that i should change in general \[Drake, Josiff Michael’s Drake\] Photonic Upgraded Co-…

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## [Leshak Suggestions](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leshak-suggestions/80612)

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**Author:** [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leshak-suggestions/80612 "2018-08-14T23:54:42Z")

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I really like the new Leshak. It’s too bad it doesn’t lend itself more towards PvE. But I think there are a few adjustments that could be made to it (and the other Triglavian) ships. Leshak • It really needs about 10%…

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