# PvP Gameplay Center

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## [Changes to Upwell "inactivity" not thought through](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-to-upwell-inactivity-not-thought-through/251842)

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**Author:** [@Dr\_Grant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Grant)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [June 29, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-to-upwell-inactivity-not-thought-through/251842 "2020-06-29T08:03:07Z")

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My understanding is that the new changes with the “inactivity” mechanic mean that any Upwell structure that is destroyed in an “inactive” state drops all loot and doesn’t have safety. I understand why it was implemented…

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## [Is the Ashimmu really that bad?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-ashimmu-really-that-bad/250745)

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**Author:** [@Marco\_Bartoli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marco_Bartoli)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-ashimmu-really-that-bad/250745 "2020-06-28T01:38:50Z")

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So I did a Blood 5/10 recently and got an Ashimmu BPC from it. Figured that that’s cool, right, because it’s a pirate cruiser. Turns out that it’s worth less than a Daredevil is. Is there a reason for that, or an ELI5 fo…

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## [Ok, done](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-done/251238)

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**Author:** [@Goe\_Rilla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Goe_Rilla)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-done/251238 "2020-06-25T22:27:43Z")

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I am done giving content/personal time/money to people can’t seem to do anything else than overkill in any engagement, and since that is most of what people do these days, i am done looking for people/engagements with ev…

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## [Best Cruiser Class ship type to train up first for pvp?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-cruiser-class-ship-type-to-train-up-first-for-pvp/250392)

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**Author:** [@Draco\_Kurosaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Draco_Kurosaki)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-cruiser-class-ship-type-to-train-up-first-for-pvp/250392 "2020-06-23T14:57:33Z")

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So what everyone thoughs on the best racial cruiser class to level up to 4/5 and learn a tech 2 weapon system first, in the context of opening up good small gang pvp options?

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## [The x2 Bufferfit, 200-300dps, Worm](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-x2-bufferfit-200-300dps-worm/243800)

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**Author:** [@Goe\_Rilla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Goe_Rilla)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-x2-bufferfit-200-300dps-worm/243800 "2020-06-23T09:34:16Z")

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So that thing was nerfed already a long while ago, with its drone bandwidth reduced, and was a welcome change. That thing was proper cancer and every risk-averse nitwits were using it. Nonetheless, the problem persists,…

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## [Dps problems with kiting condor as an alpha](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dps-problems-with-kiting-condor-as-an-alpha/250624)

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**Author:** [@Chakal\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chakal_1)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dps-problems-with-kiting-condor-as-an-alpha/250624 "2020-06-22T23:23:05Z")

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Hi im an alpha player and im trying a tech 1 condor for small gang pvp but the problem is that i think my dps is too low. This is my fit light missile launcher II x 3 (caldari navy scourge light missile as ammo) warp …

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## [Locked Immediately on Undock, BM Warp Failed](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/locked-immediately-on-undock-bm-warp-failed/249489)

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**Author:** [@Katana\_Kugisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Kugisa)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/locked-immediately-on-undock-bm-warp-failed/249489 "2020-06-22T01:16:16Z")

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I just undocked in null with a Hecate in my face (in an insta-warp serpentis stab yacht and as soon as I could see my bookmarks I clicked to warp to the undock. I didn’t mess it up, but the next instant, I was locked and…

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## [Impersonating corp/structures](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impersonating-corp-structures/248407)

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**Author:** [@TheThufir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheThufir)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impersonating-corp-structures/248407 "2020-06-21T04:17:48Z")

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I know impersonating someone elses character name is against the EULA, but is impersonating a corp name or structure name also against EULA?

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## [Corvette-Shuttle Pairs In Lowsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/corvette-shuttle-pairs-in-lowsec/249590)

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**Author:** [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 17, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/corvette-shuttle-pairs-in-lowsec/249590 "2020-06-17T20:11:36Z")

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I’ve been running around lowsec and I scanned down stuff with a Hecate. I scanned down two ships, a corvette and a shuttle. Since low scanning skills I can’t scan the shuttle. I warped into the corvette, killed him, and …

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## [PvP ships and EHP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-ships-and-ehp/248883)

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**Author:** [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 15, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-ships-and-ehp/248883 "2020-06-15T10:53:07Z")

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I know this is going to be a pretty broad question because there are so many different types of ships in Eve and some ships can be fitted multiple ways… but I was curious if there were certain benchmarks for EHP for PvP …

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## [Amarr ship for countering PVE ganks](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/amarr-ship-for-countering-pve-ganks/248961)

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**Author:** [@TraderJules](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TraderJules)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [June 14, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/amarr-ship-for-countering-pve-ganks/248961 "2020-06-14T18:45:59Z")

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Hello! I haven’t played the game in many years and decided to come back with 3 other omega friends. We want to do level 4 Lowsec PVE missions together. (I know there’s no benefit to doing lowsec missions, but we decided…

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## [Give Cyclone 6th midslot](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-cyclone-6th-midslot/248648)

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**Author:** [@TheUnholyTerror](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheUnholyTerror)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 13, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-cyclone-6th-midslot/248648 "2020-06-13T20:39:09Z")

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Opting for moving a lowslot into the midslot. For the simple ability to have a web and an adaptive invuln… Does have shield boost bonus it would make sense Or is that too OP

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## [FAX - update me please](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fax-update-me-please/247598)

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**Author:** [@Nadia\_Chow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Chow)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 8, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fax-update-me-please/247598 "2020-06-08T19:12:04Z")

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After coming back from a long break I found out my FAX fittings will not work anymore, due to the cap-booster limitations. Which of the FAXes are still popular, and how to get around the limitations? A forum-search did …

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## [Logi Loki fits under 1b](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/logi-loki-fits-under-1b/247015)

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**Author:** [@Cicada\_Adacic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cicada_Adacic)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 7, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/logi-loki-fits-under-1b/247015 "2020-06-07T15:30:55Z")

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Hi, As the title says, looking for a logi fit ( I already have subsystems and Loki Hull ) that will cost under 900m to fit. Any ideas? ( I can use T2 also and have good fitting skills )

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## [Docked inaccessible structure](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/docked-inaccessible-structure/247027)

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**Author:** [@jaen\_nae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/jaen_nae)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 6, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/docked-inaccessible-structure/247027 "2020-06-06T12:13:58Z")

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I have reactivated an account and I have found that the character is mounted on the carrier and the evemon say that is docked in accessible structure. When I log into the game will I be banned from the station or will I …

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## [Combat Recon Ships](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-recon-ships/243988)

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**Author:** [@DannielaTran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DannielaTran)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [June 6, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-recon-ships/243988 "2020-06-06T10:00:24Z")

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So earlier tonight i was exploring in a wormhole. I’m very good at keeping my D-Scan up so when a Curse showed up ontop me it definitely caught me by surprise. So I scrambled to get off the site but i was disrupted, an…

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## [Seeking feedback for 3xLoki WH ganker fits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seeking-feedback-for-3xloki-wh-ganker-fits/246725)

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**Author:** [@Kazim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazim)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 5, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/seeking-feedback-for-3xloki-wh-ganker-fits/246725 "2020-06-05T14:36:32Z")

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I’m working on 3 loki fits which are intented for WH ganking (ratters). I plan to avoid legions with both of them due to PTSD. All fits at or under 1B One has more dps, ok tank and can use a medium neut, which is nice…

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## [How I Combat Trained Pilots In Factional Warfare](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-combat-trained-pilots-in-factional-warfare/189728)

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**Author:** [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [June 4, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-combat-trained-pilots-in-factional-warfare/189728 "2020-06-04T14:07:49Z")

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How I Combat Trained Pilots In Factional Warfare (tl;dr scroll past personal history to First Things First paragraph) During my time in Factional Warfare I have experienced many styles of leadership and environments. …

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## [Dual prop cruisers](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-prop-cruisers/244004)

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**Author:** [@Mannochmore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mannochmore)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [May 29, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dual-prop-cruisers/244004 "2020-05-29T09:43:33Z")

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When and what do you dual prop? I often find an AB useful but don’t see dual props all that often.

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## [So...moon mining is actually one the most intense PvP events in the game](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-moon-mining-is-actually-one-the-most-intense-pvp-events-in-the-game/244333)

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**Author:** [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-moon-mining-is-actually-one-the-most-intense-pvp-events-in-the-game/244333 "2020-05-28T01:57:01Z")

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So many ways to fit a barge. Drone Ball Procuruer. Higgs Rig warp-off Retreiver. Bait Covetor/Hulk. I even got me a bomber kill with a log on counter attack in my keres and over confident Hecate that warped in on m…

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## [Trig ships for PVP? Some info please](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trig-ships-for-pvp-some-info-please/243544)

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**Author:** [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximilian_Wulffe)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [May 26, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trig-ships-for-pvp-some-info-please/243544 "2020-05-26T08:24:02Z")

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I haven’t actively played in a while so I kinda missed the whole Trig stuff, the past week I’ve been looking in to them a bit and it seems that for my preferred PVP style (solo PVP in null, mission busting, small gang st…

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## [Remote Sensor Dampener/Weapons Disrupt Falloff Effects?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remote-sensor-dampener-weapons-disrupt-falloff-effects/243327)

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**Author:** [@Ira\_Infernus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ira_Infernus)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 25, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/remote-sensor-dampener-weapons-disrupt-falloff-effects/243327 "2020-05-25T12:13:08Z")

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I understand ECM works in a similar manner as turret hit chance, where optimal + falloff = 50% hit chance (so in ECM the chance to successfully block is reduced by half at this range). What I am wandering is how it works…

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## [Solo SmartBomber](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-smartbomber/224035)

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**Author:** [@Davion\_Reks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davion_Reks)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [May 25, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-smartbomber/224035 "2020-05-25T03:23:50Z")

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So, just a simple question. Is there any alpha capable ship that can be used as a solo smartbomb gate camper? If so, fit?

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## [Random Attacks on Empty Haulers?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/random-attacks-on-empty-haulers/232736)

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**Author:** [@Vladimiru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladimiru)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [May 25, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/random-attacks-on-empty-haulers/232736 "2020-05-25T01:27:34Z")

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So, not posting on my hauler alt, but the only haulers I’ve lost in the past 8 months are empty ones, with no cans in them. This is usually when I’m afk on a gate or station… I"m a warp to zero --\> cloak + MWD tpye of …

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## [Where to find solo/advantageous fight](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-to-find-solo-advantageous-fight/224465)

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**Author:** [@Rhayn\_Rowe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhayn_Rowe)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [May 24, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/where-to-find-solo-advantageous-fight/224465 "2020-05-24T13:34:47Z")

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I tend to ■■■■ about in Tama, but today I was dropped by 2 different cruisers, a duo 4 times, 9 merlins another time and 13 harpies the final time then just logged off. Are there any decent pvp sources left for solo play…

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## [Big fat space-turkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-fat-space-turkey/242905)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Schmidtt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Schmidtt)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [May 23, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-fat-space-turkey/242905 "2020-05-23T16:57:59Z")

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I’ve been looking into the Amarr Prophecy and i think i can really use the possible big armor tank to my advantage , however i find it hard to make it hit hard or have any decent dps whatsoever. I have a fit with drone d…

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## [15 minutes capsuleer log off timer is too long for casual play?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/15-minutes-capsuleer-log-off-timer-is-too-long-for-casual-play/242608)

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**Author:** [@Argive\_Lonestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Argive_Lonestar)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [May 20, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/15-minutes-capsuleer-log-off-timer-is-too-long-for-casual-play/242608 "2020-05-20T21:41:22Z")

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So as the title says I think the current log of timer is bit too long… The aim of this thread is to see if anyone else feels similiar. Please for the love of god dont start throwing insults around if possible and just tr…

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## [PVP Logi timer in highsec case](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-logi-timer-in-highsec-case/239646)

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**Author:** [@Labadina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Labadina)\
**Replies:** 44\
**Last updated:** [May 19, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-logi-timer-in-highsec-case/239646 "2020-05-19T08:43:39Z")

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This is what happened, i just dont undersatand why if support ships only inherit the suported ships timer? ship1 is remote sensor boosting ship2, none of them are criminals or suspect or have any timer. Ship2 shoots sh…

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## [Why do Guristas rats jam ships that tackle Ishtar bots?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-guristas-rats-jam-ships-that-tackle-ishtar-bots/241395)

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**Author:** [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Replies:** 107\
**Last updated:** [May 18, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-guristas-rats-jam-ships-that-tackle-ishtar-bots/241395 "2020-05-18T13:08:08Z")

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I get seriously get redboxed and mass ecm’ed by rats in havens everytime I tackle an Ishtar at a gurista site.

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## [Needlejack Fleet Scam?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/needlejack-fleet-scam/234651)

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**Author:** [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Replies:** 38\
**Last updated:** [May 18, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/needlejack-fleet-scam/234651 "2020-05-18T01:07:02Z")

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So basically, is Needlejack fleet whoosh mandatory? For example, if I activate one right next to a fleet member, are they whooshed immediately? Because, if I manage to get in a fleet of enemies, easy if you are at war wi…

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