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Dev blog: New Eden Open $10.000 Tournament

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#21 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:19
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#22 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:21
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


Because there has to be /some/ way to cut down the number of groups who'd want to enter, to something manageable.
#23 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:22
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


This tournament has nothing to do with alliances whatsoever. What we do have is a cost of entry in order to ensure that those who are stating they wish to compete have enough skin in the game to take it seriously. Over the long term we would definitely like to have alternative methods of doing so but we simply don't have any other option at this time.
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#24 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:22  |  Edited by: CCP Bro
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


Also, if you are a small gang PVP expert there is nothing stopping you from being sponsored by an alliance or a corporation. If you don't want to be backed by a corporation/alliance, you can search for a team that has the funds available and is recruiting. If you are a top level player just start a search for a team or a search for funds.
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#25 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:23
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction



you cant get $400 together? between 32 people?

thats like $12.5 per person you cheep bastard!
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#26 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:29
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


Because there has to be /some/ way to cut down the number of groups who'd want to enter, to something manageable.


Steve is right to a large extent but I really want to spend some time talking about this as EVE tournaments and eSports are something that CCP Bro and I talk about at length.

In an ideal world we want to expand eSports to become a really big deal in EVE Online and allow players access to a host of tournaments of different sizes with a range of prizes. This is a long term goal and, if I am being completely honest, we have a lot of decision making and planning to do to make this a reality. We want to see tournaments involving everyone from small groups to huge alliances but this is will be much further down the road.

20 PLEX is not a bid every player can make and, as Steve pointed out, there needs to be a barrier of entry otherwise we would end up with a random drawing of hundreds of teams. We are aware that a tournament of this size will attract some of the best pilots from multiple corporations and alliances and we would expect that these teams will be sponsored by their respective corps and alliances.

This tournament is about celebrating individuals who can form a team, not necessarily from the same corps and alliances, and guide those teams to greatness.
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#27 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:33
CCP Bro wrote:
Also, if you are a small gang PVP expert there is nothing stopping you from being sponsored by an alliance or a corporation. If you don't want to be backed by a corporation/alliance, you can search for a team that has the funds available and is recruiting. If you are a top level player just start a search for a team or a search for funds.

So presumably team names could be sponsored by Eve related entities as a form of advertising?


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#28 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:34
daaaayyyyyuuuum this stuff is cool! I wish I could join some team Blink
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#29 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:34  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


This tournament has nothing to do with alliances whatsoever. What we do have is a cost of entry in order to ensure that those who are stating they wish to compete have enough skin in the game to take it seriously. Over the long term we would definitely like to have alternative methods of doing so but we simply don't have any other option at this time.


I understand the need to cut down the amount of people who want to be in the tournament, but I agree that an alternative would be nice, as many groups of PvPers don't really stock up on ISK or plexes, and spend most ISK on acquiring stuff to fly. Perhaps an alternative method of getting in such as "if your group doesn't have the ISK, we have 5-10 auction entries that will be given as a prize in contest X" (for example a contest to make a video promoting your group of PvPers)

or something community based. The amount of slots given as a prize would have to be fairly small though.

generally, I just feel a tournament should be "Oh, we are good PvPers, lets enter!", not "Oh, we are good PvPers, lets farm PvE for 2 months to save up the ISK to enter!" :P

it's just the feeling that a lot of PvPers have that they want to PvP whenever on Eve, not be forced to PvE for some reason other than the normal ones (paying for accounts, being able to afford the ship you are flying, etc.)

as well... a team acuiring 300 dollars to potentially spend on PLEX entering a tournament that is "for fun" is not all that appealing either, especially when you think of it like "oh, i can win 1000 dollars for third place!" but its actually 700 after the fact.

I guess as eve as an esport gets more popular tournaments will grow in size and thus not need to constrict the amount of people entering with fees, it's good CCP is trying to do more tournaments, regardless of the entry requirements
The Camel Empire
#30 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:34
Do we get the plex back if you don't get in?
Like we bid 24 plex, but all other bid 55 plex, do we still ne to pay it?
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#31 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:34
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction


What?
was just about to point out that it's a base-20-plex from the *whole team*

if you get everyone on the team to front two plex (@17USD, iirc), then you have a really good chance of being able to bid up to a spot on the tournament

not too shabby, imho, and no giant alliance tech-fueled-bank-rolls required Roll

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Naquatech Syndicate
#32 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:34
Hehe... i can aford myself 20 PLEXes or even more. Lol
C C P Alliance
#33 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:35
Jackie Fisher wrote:
CCP Bro wrote:
Also, if you are a small gang PVP expert there is nothing stopping you from being sponsored by an alliance or a corporation. If you don't want to be backed by a corporation/alliance, you can search for a team that has the funds available and is recruiting. If you are a top level player just start a search for a team or a search for funds.

So presumably team names could be sponsored by Eve related entities as a form of advertising?




For instance that could be a selling point for a team looking for funding to join this tournament.
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#34 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:36
I feel like OWN3D didn't quite grasp exactly how valuable the prizes for the Alliance Tournament are. Plus the prize pool here is basically equal to the minimum they are likely to receive in the auction, based on PLEX costing $15 each. Seems skimpy to me.

Oh well, I guess it's the first RL-cash tournament.
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Nulli Secunda
#35 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:36
Clarification request on the Player/character thing:

Quote:
Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.

[...]

You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you.


Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters.

I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.
#36 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:37
l0rd carlos wrote:
Do we get the plex back if you don't get in?
Like we bid 24 plex, but all other bid 55 plex, do we still ne to pay it?


Only the winner of the auction slot pays anything. Those plex would never leave your hands.
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#37 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:38
Lord Haur wrote:
Clarification request on the Player/character thing:

Quote:
Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.

[...]

You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you.


Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters.

I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.


A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team.
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C C P Alliance
#38 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:39
Lord Haur wrote:
Clarification request on the Player/character thing:

Quote:
Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.

[...]

You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you.


Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters.

I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.


You presume correctly. You need to supply a minimum of 8 player characters in a team for it to be eligible.
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Nulli Secunda
#39 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:40  |  Edited by: Lord Haur
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Lord Haur wrote:
Clarification request on the Player/character thing:

Quote:
Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.

[...]

You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you.


Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters.

I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.


A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team.

That was not my question. I was asking whether the 8-24 "player" limit per team refers to RL people or ingame characters.

edit: thanks Navigator.
Minmatar Republic
#40 Posted: 2012.09.28 15:42
Sorry but the entrance format is ****.

What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?

Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.

If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.

Thats kind of bad, isnt it.
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