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Dev Blog: More from you and less from the evil nasty NPC

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#1 - 2012-10-23 17:02:52 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Attention internet spaceship pilots!

CCP FoxFour is here with another Dev Blog to tell you about how we're going to put even more control over manufacturing in the hands of capsuleers.

You can read all about how we'll be removing more items from the NPC market and allowing them to be player created in the latest Dev Blog here.

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The Camel Empire
#2 - 2012-10-23 17:04:48 UTC
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C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-10-23 17:12:59 UTC
More market stuff! YAY!

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#4 - 2012-10-23 17:13:01 UTC
Will packaged containers be able to be placed inside containers?

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#5 - 2012-10-23 17:13:45 UTC
Does this mean we're sticking it to the NPC man?
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#6 - 2012-10-23 17:14:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Wibla
Will we be able to assemble a station container in a POS CHA for audit logging etc?
Vae. Victis.
#7 - 2012-10-23 17:15:55 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Will packaged containers be able to be placed inside containers?

I don't see why not.

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Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2012-10-23 17:21:46 UTC
so whats the "cost" column supposed to be, production cost?

brb stockpiling
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-10-23 17:22:56 UTC
Tech2 station warehouses! GO GO GO!
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-10-23 17:23:00 UTC
Wibla wrote:
Will we be able to assemble a station container in a POS CHA for audit logging etc?


To tell you the truth I didn't test that but I actually don't think it will work. We probably check it by group so no matter if it is packaged or not it won't. I will ask about making it happen though.

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C C P Alliance
#11 - 2012-10-23 17:23:38 UTC
Jack bubu wrote:
so whats the "cost" column supposed to be, production cost?

brb stockpiling


Approximate based on market prices of minerals at the time I estimated it.

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#12 - 2012-10-23 17:25:04 UTC
This is good; however, makes me wonder if you're designing new ISK sinks. Or maybe you're going to cut down dramatically on ISK faucets?

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

#13 - 2012-10-23 17:27:15 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Wibla wrote:
Will we be able to assemble a station container in a POS CHA for audit logging etc?


To tell you the truth I didn't test that but I actually don't think it will work. We probably check it by group so no matter if it is packaged or not it won't. I will ask about making it happen though.



Please Please Please pretty pretty please allow us to put the station container in a POS CHA.

The Wormholers are going to LOVE you, even if we have to bring a freighter in - it would still be amazingly wonderful to have an audit trail.
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2012-10-23 17:27:32 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Jack bubu wrote:
so whats the "cost" column supposed to be, production cost?

brb stockpiling


Approximate based on market prices of minerals at the time I estimated it.

all slightly below NPC prices, stockpiling cancelled ;)
Nulli Secunda
#15 - 2012-10-23 17:28:33 UTC
unspectacular, but a cool change

i actually remember mentioning the missing BPOs for these in a forum thread long time ago. now i can persuade myself that CCP has implemented one of my suggestions. good times
#16 - 2012-10-23 17:28:44 UTC
Can you please add non-Secure Huge and Giant containers to the game? I use Giants for sorting my stuff, e.g. if I have a station I use as a mission base or mining base, but for that purpose I don't need the added expense of Secure containers. Non-Secure ones will suffice. Yet these don't exist in the game.

Please fix this oversight.
Nulli Secunda
#17 - 2012-10-23 17:30:28 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
This is good; however, makes me wonder if you're designing new ISK sinks. Or maybe you're going to cut down dramatically on ISK faucets?



i really hope that CCP will increase the (highsec) market tax and the (highsec) costs for industrial lines in the winter expansion to take some ISK out of the game. and help lowsec and nullsec industry
#18 - 2012-10-23 17:32:55 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
Luc Chastot wrote:
This is good; however, makes me wonder if you're designing new ISK sinks. Or maybe you're going to cut down dramatically on ISK faucets?



i really hope that CCP will increase the (highsec) market tax and the (highsec) costs for industrial lines in the winter expansion to take some ISK out of the game. and help lowsec and nullsec industry


They can just make the cost for Research/Production lines dynamic. That won't only benefit nullbears, but will also make it more sensible to utilise one's high-sec POS for production purposes.
Nulli Secunda
#19 - 2012-10-23 17:35:49 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
Luc Chastot wrote:
This is good; however, makes me wonder if you're designing new ISK sinks. Or maybe you're going to cut down dramatically on ISK faucets?



i really hope that CCP will increase the (highsec) market tax and the (highsec) costs for industrial lines in the winter expansion to take some ISK out of the game. and help lowsec and nullsec industry


They can just make the cost for Research/Production lines dynamic. That won't only benefit nullbears, but will also make it more sensible to utilise one's high-sec POS for production purposes.


there are too many slots in highsec to make a dynamic system work

that might work for research slots, but not for manufacturing
#20 - 2012-10-23 17:42:00 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Will packaged containers be able to be placed inside containers?

I don't see why not.

I think it should work too, but that does not mean CCP made it happen. CCP FoxFour, did you?

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