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Taking over abandoned POS's

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Advent of Fate
#1 - 2013-05-22 09:44:06 UTC
I have an idea it might not be a good idea but could create a new role and help clean up space of old POS that have been left un-fueled for a long time.
I have come across a lot POS that have not been fueled and know a couple that have been abandoned for over a year.
So why not make a system to take these over / steal them.
So how might this work:
If a POS has not been fueled for 15 days, then it becomes “at risk”.

To take over a POS you will need to hack the on board computers, so using the new Hacking system you could hack the POS:

Small has 1 hack needed
Medium has 2 hacks needed
Large has 3 hacks needed

Once hacked you will have the options to:

Take over and refuel
Take down to be used as you want
Steal anything in it or in ship hangers etc

This would mean if you find a POS say in a WH long abandoned a smaller corp could move in without too much logistics. This could encourage more corps into WH, Low and Null space. But normal standings rules will apply in High Sec.

Well please comment and put your ideas up but this could be a fun a useful addition, and should not take CCP not to much coding as most of the elements are already in game.
DARKNESS.
#2 - 2013-05-22 09:56:01 UTC
You have a way to take over any offline POS. It's called a Weapon.
#3 - 2013-05-22 10:20:06 UTC
personally i'd far prefer it just gets destroyed and you go spend you hard earnt isk on a new POS.

keep the economy running an all
Advent of Fate
#4 - 2013-05-22 11:24:25 UTC
I agree with Gun if it is up a running, and that approach is fine, but for abandoned POS's this could fit in well with the new Hacking process, and POS bashing can be such a pain for an abandoned POS
#5 - 2013-05-22 11:56:33 UTC
monkfish2345 wrote:
personally i'd far prefer it just gets destroyed and you go spend you hard earnt isk on a new POS.

keep the economy running an all


The economy would keep going with this idea. It might even increase.

First, the player could either take over or dismantle and sell the POS. If he sells the POS, that not only makes the sale, but frees up a moon for another POS.

If there is loot left in the POS, that could be sold on the market.

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.

Advent of Fate
#6 - 2013-05-22 19:40:02 UTC
Rayzilla Zaraki wrote:
monkfish2345 wrote:
personally i'd far prefer it just gets destroyed and you go spend you hard earnt isk on a new POS.

keep the economy running an all


The economy would keep going with this idea. It might even increase.

First, the player could either take over or dismantle and sell the POS. If he sells the POS, that not only makes the sale, but frees up a moon for another POS.

If there is loot left in the POS, that could be sold on the market.




That was how I looked at it and would mean that some people might make this a new way to make isk and get lost isk back into the system
#7 - 2013-05-22 19:50:55 UTC
Nice Nicholas wrote:





That was how I looked at it and would mean that some people might make this a new way to make isk and get lost isk back into the system[/quote]

Yep, more about making moons available than finding free POSs. Those buggers are all over the place!

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.

WE FORM V0LTA
#8 - 2013-05-22 20:07:23 UTC
This idea is far from new or original, but it's good, and CCP is interested in applying the new hacking mechanics into areas outside PVE sites.

Fingers crossed for this one making it :)

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#9 - 2013-05-22 20:18:22 UTC
I've been thinking about this for the past few days. It's really wierd when you find 5 POS in one system and they are all offline just sitting there. There should be a way of making people pay for leaving their stuff offline without bashing it.Roll
#10 - 2013-05-23 14:01:14 UTC
Updating "write down all the things" to point to this thread instead of the current "little things" post.

Personally, I'd like to see POSes be capturable/conquerable/hackable. Add more content for the "farms and fields" approach to populating non-hisec.
#11 - 2013-05-23 15:16:48 UTC
WolfSchwarzMond wrote:
You have a way to take over any offline POS. It's called a Weapon.

Weapons are ineffective against offline POSes in highsec owned by disbanded corps. You cannot wardec non-existent corp.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-05-23 15:26:55 UTC
I think this idea is great. Anyone have any idea how many random abandoned POS are out in WH space? It seems like every other WH I scan down has an abandoned POS or two. I think with the hangars and whatnot that they should need to be hacked individually, but have them be easier than the POS itself.
Advent of Fate
#13 - 2013-05-24 09:51:07 UTC
Thanks for the input, I hope someone from CCP has a look or might even comment please keep pressing like if you like this idea. and its a good point that you can't take down a POS in high sec unless you war dec the corp and if the corp has shut then it's there till someone from CCP takes it down.



Yours

Nice
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-05-24 17:35:47 UTC
Maybe give the user a suspect tag for activating the hacking module on the POS. It would only matter at all in High sec
Advent of Fate
#15 - 2013-06-04 09:18:15 UTC
Hi

Well I have not given this a bump for a week or so, any other ideas on how this might work

Smile
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#16 - 2013-06-04 09:22:38 UTC
I'd like to see hacking an online POS be possible, but I think that abandoned equipment should eventually unanchor itself without being removed from space. Then someone can come along and steal it.

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#17 - 2013-06-04 09:34:16 UTC
+1 and while were at it, how about getting rid of that boatload of containers hanging outside a lot of the starter system's station?
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-06-04 10:41:42 UTC
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Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-04 11:10:57 UTC
Would be great usage point for new hacking mini game. It is an old but great idea.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me

#20 - 2013-06-04 16:58:23 UTC
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