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[Kronos] Pirate Faction Cruisers

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#1 - 2014-04-07 15:47:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
I'm back!

Getting to finally show you guys these is very exciting! I hope you understand the delay. The drone changes outlined in this Dev Blog had a big enough impact on the balance for pirate cruisers and battleships that we really wanted to wait on posting these. Thankfully, that's happened and we can get on with it!

So, there's a lot of changes here but the precedents set in the frigate pass should be mirrored fairly well. Here's some high level explanation on each of the Cruisers:

Phantasm:
  • Role bonus to Afterburner speed
  • Major buffs to base speed and slot layout

  • Ashimmu:
  • Infinite Energy Vampire (remember these are getting a buff as well, check the thread here for details
  • Web range bonus instead of effectiveness
  • Adding a low slot and losing a high - the low slot should be more useful in most setups
  • Added drone bay/bandwidth

  • Gila:
  • Medium drone powerhouse (remember the Medium Drone buff in the above linked Dev Blog)
  • We expect a lot of feedback here, I'll do my best to answer questions as they come, but the basic thinking is that this is new and interesting, very powerful, and frees it from overlap with the Ishtar (which simply does sentries better)

  • Vigilant:
  • Keeping the web bonus
  • Fixing strangenesses in the attributes by lowering PG some, adding some base speed to catch it up with other cruisers and finally giving it decent lock range

  • Cynabal:
  • Warp speed multiplier increased (moves through space more like a frigate now)
  • Slight fitting tweaks

  • And here's the details:

    PHANTASM

    Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
    7.5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret tracking speed

    Caldari Cruiser Bonus:
    20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus (was 5% energy turret damage)

    Role Bonus:
    150% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage (was 100% energy turret damage)


    Slot layout: 4H(-1), 6M, 5L(+2); 3 turrets, 0 launchers
    Fittings: 890 PWG(-35), 380 CPU(-45)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2700(+266) / 2175 / 2065
    Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1800(+105) / 495000 (+3750) / 3.5
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 228(+64) / .62(-.06) / 9600000 / 8.25s
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 15 / 15
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 59km / 275 / 7
    Sensor strength: 20
    Signature radius: 120(-10)
    Cargo Hold: 410

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    ASHIMMU

    Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
    15% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer effectiveness

    Minmatar Cruiser Bonus:
    20% bonus to Stasis Webifier range (was 10% bonus to Stasis Webifier effectiveness)

    Role Bonus:
    100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret Damage
    note: Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level


    Slot layout: 5H(-1), 4M, 6L(+1); 3 turrets, 0 launchers
    Fittings: 1300 PWG(-120), 350 CPU
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2290(-38) / 2950(+325) / 2325
    Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1850(+20) / 530000(-7500) / 3.49
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 208(+33) / .58 / 11010000 / 8.85s
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 40(+30) / 40(+30)
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km(+10km) / 340 / 7(+1)
    Sensor strength: 19
    Signature radius: 130
    Cargo Hold: 430

    ========================================================================================

    GILA

    Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
    10% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage (was 10% drone damage and hitpoints)

    Caldari Cruiser Bonus:

    4% bonus to all shield resistances

    Role Bonus:
    500% bonus to medium drone damage and hitpoints (was 50% bonus to Light Missile and Rocket max velocity)


    Slot layout: 5H, 6M, 4L; 0 turrets, 4 launchers(+1)
    Fittings: 670 PWG(+40), 400 CPU(+50)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3200(+12) / 2200(-125) / 2490
    Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1400(+25) / 530000 (-1250) / 2.85
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 195(+31) / .66 / 9600000 / 8.78s
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 20(-105) / 100(-300)
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 58km (+3km) / 285 / 7
    Sensor strength: 22
    Signature radius: 145(-5)
    Cargo Hold: 440

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    VIGILANT

    Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
    10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret falloff

    Minmatar Cruiser Bonus:
    10% bonus to Stasis Webifier effectiveness

    Role Bonus:

    75% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage


    Slot layout: 5H, 4M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
    Fittings: 1050 PWG(-150), 360 CPU
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2175 / 2500(+175) / 2625
    Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1545 / 490000 (-1250) / 3.15
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 242(+36) / .48 / 9830000 / 6.54s
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 49km(+14km) / 300 / 7
    Sensor strength: 20
    Signature radius: 130
    Cargo Hold: 450

    ========================================================================================

    CYNABAL

    Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
    10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff

    Minmatar Cruiser Bonus:
    10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage

    Role Bonus:
    25% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire
    note: This ship has increased warp speed and acceleration


    Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 4 turrets, 0 launchers
    Fittings: 980 PWG(-120), 335 CPU(-15)
    Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2330 / 2300(-25) / 2065
    Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1415 / 490000(-1250) / 2.88
    Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 263(+6) / .45(-.0045) / 9047000(+200000) / 5.64s
    Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
    Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 47km(+2km) / 390(-33) / 7
    Sensor strength: 18(+2)
    Signature radius: 115(+5)
    Cargo Hold: 400

    Look forward to hearing from you o/

    @ccp_rise

    Pandemic Legion
    #2 - 2014-04-07 15:49:50 UTC
    FIRST

    _@sala_cameron_

    Eternal Pretorian Alliance
    #3 - 2014-04-07 15:51:11 UTC
    So there are the cruisers! Waited for them quite some time. Next thing i am looking forward to is the posting about the battleships.
    #4 - 2014-04-07 15:52:12 UTC
    I shall be buying a knifey bean shortly.

    CSM 8 Representative

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    C C P Alliance
    #5 - 2014-04-07 15:52:13 UTC
    Hexatron Ormand wrote:
    So there are the cruisers! Waited for them quite some time. Next thing i am looking forward to is the posting about the battleships.


    Going to give these a few days and hopefully post the BS near the end of the week.

    @ccp_rise

    Caldari State
    #6 - 2014-04-07 15:52:54 UTC
    Looking forward to using my Ash again and flying some Phantasms! Also looking forward to hearing player feedback on the Gila.

    aka Jester, who apparently was once Deemed Worthy To Wield The Banhammer to good effect.

    WAFFLES.
    #7 - 2014-04-07 15:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
    Why don't angel ships get a cool role bonus??? ...ffs

    Literally, just a minmatar ship with a different skin

    Super drones, super web, Super NOS AND web, Super AB and.... just a more expensive Vagabond.
    Or, a Firetail that goes faster and is much more expensive if you fly the Dramial.

    Angel ships need a cool role bonus and a new niche.

    EDIT: WARP FAST LIKE A BOSS Xx BRINGING OUT THE HIT AND RUN MACH xX
    (pls buff autocannons tho) :)

     Fear The Tribes

    Goonswarm Federation
    #8 - 2014-04-07 15:55:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Weaselior
    Does the Gila really get a 500% bonus to medium drones instead of the 50% you'd expect, or is that a typo?

    edit: oh, it only gets two drones, gotcha

    Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

    #9 - 2014-04-07 15:57:03 UTC
    VIGILANT FINALLY HAS LOCK RANGE
    Pandemic Legion
    #10 - 2014-04-07 15:57:21 UTC
    CCP Rise wrote:

    VIGILANT


    Role Bonus:[/b]
    75% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage




    u wot m8
    The Camel Empire
    #11 - 2014-04-07 15:57:29 UTC
    Weaselior wrote:
    Does the Gila really get a 500% bonus to medium drones instead of the 50% you'd expect, or is that a typo?

    edit: oh, it only gets two drones, gotcha


    Check the bandwidth
    Pandemic Legion
    #12 - 2014-04-07 15:57:41 UTC
    Interesting changes on Gila/Phantasm, to say the least
    Goonswarm Federation
    #13 - 2014-04-07 15:57:46 UTC
    wow

    I hope you took the cynabal out on a date before you did... that to it
    Brave Collective
    #14 - 2014-04-07 15:57:49 UTC
    Rashi Nerha wrote:
    CCP Rise wrote:

    VIGILANT


    Role Bonus:[/b]
    75% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage




    u wot m8


    The change we've all been waiting for
    #15 - 2014-04-07 15:58:14 UTC
    Totally looking forward to summer!
    A Band Apart.
    #16 - 2014-04-07 15:58:49 UTC
    I'm going to miss my sentry Gila setup, but if that five-hundred-percent boost to medium drones isn't a typo, that could be a very interesting bonus setup ... especially with the added CPU, which the Gila needed rather desperately...

    "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

    Eve Radio Alliance
    #17 - 2014-04-07 15:59:56 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ FunkyBacon
    I am liking most of these changes. The small hybrid turret bonus on the vigilant has me scratching my head, but I especially like where you're going with the phantasm and ashimmu.

    Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado.

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    C C P Alliance
    #18 - 2014-04-07 16:00:09 UTC
    The Vigilant bonus was a typo, it's fixed now: MEDIUM hybrid.

    The Gila bonus is not a typo, 500%.

    @ccp_rise

    Gallente Federation
    #19 - 2014-04-07 16:00:55 UTC
    You have no idea how hard it is to keep quiet when these things are told to you. NDA and all.

    But yeah, that drone on the Gila

    m

    Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)

    #20 - 2014-04-07 16:01:18 UTC
    So under AB power the Phantasm will go approximately 1km/s without any nanos, links, boosters, implants, etc... I wonder how fast it'll go with a 100mn AB....
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