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S3LICI3

Pator Tech School

Minmatar Republic

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#1 - 2015-04-23 00:14:52 UTC | Edited by: S3LICI3

i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened?

Weaponised Vegemite Flying Dangerous 47,807
Scipio Artelius Weaponised Vegemite Flying Dangerous Likes received: 47,807	#2 - 2015-04-23 00:17:59 UTC \| Edited by: Scipio Artelius 3 Just undock. You are not likely to be ganked. So you might find that your perception doesn't match reality and you are going to be ok. Otherwise, just give UAE your stuff. This feels like a bait post anyway, so your stuff may be much better with UAE.

Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 6,913
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs Likes received: 6,913	#3 - 2015-04-23 00:20:54 UTC 5 I have no idea what you are talking about. I play EVE daily, and haven't had much of any trouble. In the past 6 years I've had one gank, and that was because I made a mistake. I've also been bumped once, but warped-off because I wasn't AFK. I've had zero problems running missions or mining.

10,020
Paranoid Loyd Likes received: 10,020	#4 - 2015-04-23 00:21:17 UTC 2 It's really quite simple, if you don't want to be prey, then don't act like prey. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!


S3LICI3 Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 0	#5 - 2015-04-23 00:21:33 UTC yeah i get what you mean, thanks for that, good comment. i'm not quitting yet so i need my stuff. is UAE your corp?


Paranoid Loyd Likes received: 10,020	#6 - 2015-04-23 00:24:07 UTC \| Edited by: Paranoid Loyd 1 No UAE just has perma dibs on stuff from quitters who post in GD, but apparently you don't need to worry about that. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!

Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 1,723
Shederov Blood Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company Likes received: 1,723	#7 - 2015-04-23 00:26:21 UTC 5 I really can't tell from your post whether you're seeing more or less ganks than you used to. Who put the goat in there?

Tau Cabalander

Retirement Retreat

Working Stiffs

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#8 - 2015-04-23 00:29:14 UTC

Have you thought about what you are doing that would make you a target?

Have you thought about how to avoid being a target? [Other than by not undocking?]

Have you asked others or searched for advice on how to avoid being ganked?

Example, a few of my posts on mining, but generally useful stuff:

How to mine with a bullseye on your back
Suicide ganks
Need help with starting the game.

Doomheim 296
Zealous Miner Doomheim Likes received: 296	#9 - 2015-04-23 00:45:32 UTC 4 If anything all of this violence and danger should make the game more exciting for you. Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!

Azn Empire 21,366
Mag's Azn Empire Likes received: 21,366	#10 - 2015-04-23 00:53:52 UTC 1 Tau Cabalander wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about. This. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Shederov Blood

Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company

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#11 - 2015-04-23 00:56:21 UTC | Edited by: Shederov Blood

Zealous Miner wrote:

If anything all of this violence and danger should make the game more exciting for you.

That's sort of what he said, and the reason I'm more confused each time I re-read the post between wiping the blood out of my eyes.
All I got was "The game used to be fun because of gankers, but now it's not worth playing anymore. What happened to all the gankers?"
Considering the buffs to safety and nerfs to ganking in the last 5 years, it fits his timeline.

Who put the goat in there?

d0cTeR9

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#12 - 2015-04-23 01:41:53 UTC

S3LICI3 wrote:

Having gamed back then too, i can tell you suicide ganking was a thing... but rare (a few per weeks).

Now it's a few per days, thanks to some pretty big nerfs to freighters apparently. Back then, no one ever imagined to suicide gank a freighter, and when they did... the freighter usually lived (concord was very quick in dealing with them back then).

Now it's just different, so be smart and don't fly what you can't afford.

Been around since the beginning.

Vimsy Vortis

Shoulda Checked Local

Break-A-Wish Foundation

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#13 - 2015-04-23 01:54:39 UTC | Edited by: Vimsy Vortis

d0cTeR9 wrote:

Now it's a few per days, thanks to some pretty big nerfs to freighters apparently. Back then, no one ever imagined to suicide gank a freighter, and when they did... the freighter usually lived (concord was very quick in dealing with them back then).

This is actually completely backwards.

Freighters got an EHP reduction because they now have the ability to fit modules. If you tank a freighter they get more EHP than they used to. CONCORD response times also got faster, not slower and a number of ganking tactics got patched out of the game.

The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.

Freighters still tough, if they're tanked, mining barges have more EHP and CONCORD responds faster and is more effective than it used to be. There's also now no insurance payouts for ships lost while ganking.

Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.

The Troll Bridge 23,523
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#14 - 2015-04-23 01:56:01 UTC 4 Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture. Also, your stuff, can.. oh wait.. this has been covered already. Enjoy that pic though. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

Jenshae Chiroptera

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#15 - 2015-04-23 02:16:02 UTC | Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera

Probably another Code alt.

Ganking is more focused and less random.
Null Sec coalitions are fewer, larger, more focused and less random
High Sec mining corporations are ... well they are what they are ...
Worm Hole dwellers are more focused and less random.

Get out there and find a reason for someone to come into conflict with you. Currently, if some tiny gang or solo guy comes near my home systems, I dock up and do something else. Too much entertainment for them and a waste of my time and effort chasing them around. Stomp them like the cockroaches that they are and and they are soon back in another interceptor to repeat the annoying process.
NC. blow our SBUs and out we go in a CTA. They gave us a good reason to form up and do something.

So, don't feel entitled to be served up content every minute of the day just because you pay your subscription.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1,838
Ned Thomas Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,838	#16 - 2015-04-23 02:27:43 UTC 1 I too was once also and therefore began other examples.

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Otso Bakarti Doomheim Likes received: 627	#17 - 2015-04-23 04:30:57 UTC UAE must have too much stuff, then. I volunteer to take care of the overage. There just isn't anything that can be said!

Scipio Artelius

Weaponised Vegemite

Flying Dangerous

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#18 - 2015-04-23 05:03:58 UTC | Edited by: Scipio Artelius

Otso Bakarti wrote:

UAE must have too much stuff, then. I volunteer to take care of the overage.

In theory, everything in the game belongs to UAE, just that people haven't left yet.

So it's technically impossible for him to have too much and it's technically impossible for him to give it away, since the person he gives it to will eventually leave the game and it's UAEs again.

Even your stuff belongs to him.

Tuttomenui II

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#19 - 2015-04-23 06:52:18 UTC

I spent a couple hours on the undock of jita 4-4 launching snowballs at the station and causing quite a ruckus from the stations program of fun slaughter by use of massive amounts of defender missiles. And I didn't get ganked. And the activity can be quite annoying to others.

But it is funny cause a lot of people think your being attacked and are amazed when they target you and see you taking no damage.

Koinuun Kotei 10,603
Bagrat Skalski Koinuun Kotei Likes received: 10,603	#20 - 2015-04-23 08:10:57 UTC 3 Move out of high sec? There are no High sec suicide squads there. Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!