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How about a Beta clone?

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#21 - 2016-11-19 15:32:11 UTC
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ISD Max Trix

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#22 - 2016-11-20 02:46:38 UTC
Sorry this thread should not have been locked.

ISD Max Trix

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O.U.Z.O. Alliance
#23 - 2016-11-20 11:05:08 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Sorry this thread should not have been locked.


Actually, we wouldn't mind at all if you would.

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O.U.Z.O. Alliance
#24 - 2016-11-20 11:06:27 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
it could easily be fixed

allow alpha clones upto t2 medium guns and tank mods OR allow alpha clones cross train at current skill restriction levels but for all races


NO!

Or you could just pay 25000 per month like everyone else does.

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Hole Control
#25 - 2016-11-21 12:38:28 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
Just throwing this out there :-P

Maybe it could cost like 1/3:rd to half the Omega price but give greater access...



Get to know the game with an Alpha then go Omega if you like it (or not if not).

No more clone states.

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#26 - 2016-11-21 12:58:43 UTC
A cheaper clone without limitations other than being locked out of skilltraining would be nice.
#27 - 2016-11-22 01:30:23 UTC
I don't know why many of you are going bonkus because I am asking for just one more clone state and you think that I am asking for hundreds of clone states...

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.

End of Life
#28 - 2016-11-22 03:51:27 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
I don't know why many of you are going bonkus because I am asking for just one more clone state and you think that I am asking for hundreds of clone states...

There's 24 letters in the Greek alphabet.

This one request if implemented, would just lead to someone else asking for a Gamma clone, then a delta, epsilon, etc., etc.

As soon as a line is drawn somewhere, someone will want the line moved somewhere else, or a way to remove the line all together.

We are only a week into the Alpha idea. Way too early to be suggesting other clone states in my opinion.
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2016-11-22 18:15:02 UTC
IMHO a formerly Omega clone that expires should be a Beta Clone and not an alpha one.

Same as alpha, but with the following: Cross-race skills ramain active. (To the extent of alpha clones)
Black Thorne Alliance
#30 - 2016-11-22 18:27:16 UTC
While having other clone states may have some merit, just saying "a cheaper subscription that gives a bit more access than alpha clones" doesn't really promote what you are trying to accomplish.

How will you expand a so called 'Beta' clone's access, and still have it more restrictive than Omega?
-Access to all races ship types up to cruiser?
-Access to all ships within the race up to Battleship? or even Capitals?
-Allow training of advanced guns and ships?
-Full access but slower training?
-Full access but zero training?

And how will you achieve paying less when subscription is already so tightly tied to the PLEX?
-Introduce a new payment model?
-Allow the PLEX to extend game time by 2-3X the amount?
-How could a player make a transition between the two or three different states?

The only real suggestion made so far towards towards an actual idea of what could be different about them was the Hard Core mode that has insane training speed that was brought up. And while It's an intriguing idea, it would surly limit their playstyle and require so many in game restrictions around it that I think becomes unattainable in that form. As well, you don't want pilots to up and quit as soon as their character dies.
A hard core mode in Eve I think would need to have middle to high preset skills, mainly on combat, and near zero training needs and ability, so that when you die you don't just quit, but instead just role a new character.

While alternative clone states may be doable, I think there should be no middle ground for a subscription, and I think any new clone state would therefore need a duplicate between the pay and no-pay access models. Using "Hard Core Mode" as an example, you would need a subscription Hard Core Mode and a Free to Play Hard Core Mode, so that any single player created and locked into the mode on your account can transition between the two.
It Burns When I'm PvPing
#31 - 2016-11-23 14:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Viktor Archangel
Implying we need even more Betas in the game, if you know what I'm sayingRoll
#32 - 2016-11-23 17:51:28 UTC
OK, not to sound like a rich elitist snob, BUT the sub is only 15USD / month. It's not that much. Do you know what is a lot less than 15USD per month? I'll tell you. It's the number of players not willing to pay 15USD / month for full functionality that would be willing to pay 10USD / month for a beta clone that is limited, but not as limited as an alpha clone.


Seriously you ninnies - cutthisshitout. This idea doesn't even make sense in any practical way.

TL/DR STOPIT!!!!
#33 - 2016-11-24 02:45:50 UTC
I am not a game developer or anything but ok, due to popular request I'll take a stab at it.

So...5 euro per month clone would give you (for example):

- Up to battleships including ALL skills for different fittings
- You can fly ships from all races
- Full trading
- Full P.I.
- Full scanning
- Full science stuff
- Full engineering stuff
- Up to mining barge in industry including all fitting skills
- etc....

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.

#34 - 2016-11-28 03:46:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Magnus Orly
Anyone who think the clone states are "easy" as they are now is completely fooling himself. In fact just the alpha clones is like 4 clones...cause they all have different skillsets depending on race. All too advanced already if you asked me.

Anyway...I am asking for only 1 more clone. That shouldn't add much to the complexity.

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.

Hole Control
#35 - 2016-11-28 10:54:34 UTC
Still no

-1
#36 - 2016-11-28 12:42:49 UTC
Not sure how it would "hurt" you if such a clone existed...

Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and trading.

O.U.Z.O. Alliance
#37 - 2016-11-28 13:35:59 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
Not sure how it would "hurt" you if such a clone existed...


Let me put this in binary. Yes means you pay, no means HTFU or deal with it, no candy, no rainbows and no unicorns.

No means no and is not a maybe quantum state.

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Caldari State
#38 - 2016-11-28 14:09:56 UTC
I would suggest a Beta-Clone for, lets say 5 ..€? per month, without quantity-discount, where you can get up to BattleCruiser (maybe the noctis aswell) and some more Tech, for example to be a littlebit more usefull in large wars, and get the battle-cruiser well-equipped.


and a Gamma-Clone for 10€, with the same rulse, but who can go up to battleships and miningbarges, but now of all races. so you can train across the entire skill-tree of all races to the same level.

For both clones the penaltys are removed for training skills, but the skills you can put in a line can't take more time than 3 days for the beta and 10 days for the Gamma. (some limitations should be there to make ppl wan't the omega in the end). Oh, and the abylity to log-in multiple "payed" chars should be possible even with the beta-clones, just saying. Play 4 chars with beta is stil more worth, than one with omega, as the omegas get quantity-discounts.

Both Clones are made to allow ppl who can't afford the full price (like me) to pay at least something per month.

just my 20 Cent to the idea. I really hope something like this will come up asa christmas-present ... Big smile
EVEolution.
#39 - 2016-11-29 18:31:20 UTC
when did a sub become something you can Haggle for?

pay the 15 euros or be happy with your alpha.



Caldari State
#40 - 2016-11-30 13:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Josh Shadowblade
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
when did a sub become something you can Haggle for?

pay the 15 euros or be happy with your alpha.



Or i do it my way and make a clever suggestion while trying to ingore stupid comments.
CCP made this discussion possible with their invention of the alpha-clone, so why not expanding the idea? CCP would benefit from it as well as the eve-community. Nothing bad about it. ;)
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