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Feedback thread for the new EVE Online, and the new community website

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#121 Posted: 2012.02.07 23:56
My first encounter was the need to download a manual patch (as autopatcher failed).
I gave up after visiting most links I could find, and eventually googled my way into it :-(

Ship spinning is just lights also, firefox 10, linux.
#122 Posted: 2012.02.08 00:34  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
The new site looks great and is a nice tool for newer players. It needs tweaking, but the complaints I have have already been addressed by others. All in all it's shaping up nicely.

I'm not a fan of you trying to trick your customers though. I understand why you chose a cool sounding profession like a bounty hunter, but at best you are giving the false impression, that there is something called a bounty hunter profession in this game. On a strict technical level it's true, since rats pay a bounty and you could try to hunt players with a bounty, but you know god damn well shooting rats is not what anyone thinks when they see a bunty hunter profession and the player bounty system is totally broken and useless. They are going to think that it's an actual profession you can focus on instead of a meaningless label you can attach to almost everyone who does any PvE in this game.

You're just setting up people for disapointment when they find out what you meant and what useless piece of crap the player bounty system is. They come in thinking they're going to be a badass bounty hunter and get to hunt targets in a huge player driven universe, but the only bounty hunting they actually can do is grinding boring mission rats or shooting the same boring rats in belts. It's a cool concept that will get people to try out the game, but it'll equally likely leave everyone of them with a bitter taste in their mouths and feeling disapointed on how shallow and broken the actual gameplay for bounty hunting really is.
Gallente Federation
#123 Posted: 2012.02.08 00:34
I miss the navigation bar on the left. Maybe you could add it back but make it look like the neocom or something
Caldari State
#124 Posted: 2012.02.08 00:58
Just posting as an FYI.

When I LIKE the new pilot orientation video -> http://www.eveonline.com/creations/videos/3320/cdia-pilot-orientation/ and post it to facebook, it is instead linking it to the Empyrian Age teaser 2 video.

Not sure if the links are messed up on any of the others.
Minmatar Republic
#125 Posted: 2012.02.08 01:52
Is the new site designed to force you to open a browser window thats like 1600 pixels wide in order to see the whole thing or is it just a problem with Chrome on the Mac? If it is intentional, was the whole team drunk when they came up with that plan?
Triumvirate.
#126 Posted: 2012.02.08 01:54  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Fix with no bling what so ever -> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/125184.

Looks horrible but works as you would predict it does.

Have fun - it is free.

original version screenshot
new version screenshot

Should work directly in chrome or in firefox with greasemonkey addon.
Customize to your own pleasure.
Get
Play with the best - Die like the rest
#127 Posted: 2012.02.08 02:28
i understand it's staged and may not be all up yet but...
support page looks way out of place now

also please include the drop down, that's on the top right of the main page, on each of the pages. That would make for much easier navigating
Go beyond the edge of space...
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Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#128 Posted: 2012.02.08 02:32  |  Edited by: Siriniris
OMG CCP, do you really call this crap a website?

Return previous website! Convenient, simple, intuitive, understandable. What i see not not even a website. This is an EVE adversitement page. Where is news i could see immedietly? Where is links to databases, evelopedia and account managenment? Where is all functionality EVE player needed?
What i see now? Pretty picture, movie, and lots of fancy adversitement! Spaceship preview! WOW! Does Eve player need it? Not. It made to impress potential newcomer. 3D spacemap with "Valuable" information like "Ships killed last 24 hours" WOW! Do i suppose to be impressed? Not. Eve player already have all this in game. So, it made to cause possible "WOW!" of possible new subscriber, not the one who play EVE.
This is good that you trying to attract new players, im not against at all. But this is a adversitement page, It can't be main EVE online page. This is not what we, who playing EVE, want to see when looking at website.
Functionality of this fancy disaster you dare to call "New Website" is close to nothing. I do not want to belive it will remain like this. Because it is meaningless now.
Return normal website as it was before! At least, make it possible to load old style website! PLEASE!
Be honest to yourself - what you made is NOT a EVE website, This is EVE Adversitement page! (And, btw, made according to classic asian MMO template)

Very displeased player.
#129 Posted: 2012.02.08 04:20
Siriniris wrote:
OMG CCP, do you really call this crap a website?

Return previous website! Convenient, simple, intuitive, understandable. What i see not not even a website. This is an EVE adversitement page. Where is news i could see immedietly? Where is links to databases, evelopedia and account managenment? Where is all functionality EVE player needed?

on the community website intended for eve player.
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Triumvirate.
#130 Posted: 2012.02.08 05:15  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
- I was annoyed after forums got linked out from main site
- I was annoyed because eve gate was forced to be used to use forums
- I was annoyed when forums didn't get fixed
- I was annoyed when I realized that you rather spend time to nonsense instead of fixing stuff what is broken.
- I was annoyed when I saw the latest changes and further plans you have for this site.
- I was annoyed when I realized that while nerdy kids code without brains, there is nothing more than bling to expect.

...but then I realized that you guys can keep your s*it. I'm not going to invest single dime to this game any more before neocom, names and website including the forums are restored to the point where usability is at least on same level than it was before.

CCP did great in crucible 1.0 and many teams have been shining after that also. It is really sad that there is so many rotten apples in CCP still. You guys ruin the quality of the work which those other guys started to raise the bar. There has been too many disappointments in a row now. Feel free to hate me because I feel pretty much the same towards you. Couldn't care less about your future. I hope you get replaced.
Get
Play with the best - Die like the rest
#131 Posted: 2012.02.08 05:25
I don't really like the new website for my own use but:

Great Job CCP, now put some good money into advertisement and let the noob influx begin.

#132 Posted: 2012.02.08 05:44
My feedback on just the main site, not the community one:

- First off, let me say that I like the idea of what is being done here. I think a main site to cater to potential new players with a separate site for people already playing is good. This way we can have a lean site with just what we need and the marketing can live and grow the way it needs to.

- My initial thought on the design is, wow this is slick and cool. But....

- Even as I look at this on my res 2560x1440 monitor, I can't help but feel like too much of the actual content requires too much scrolling to get to. The look is clean and that is good, but I feel like space is somehow not being used efficiently, especially in the in the top 400 pixels or so.

- There MIGHT be a little too much white for EVE. I think the color scheme is pleasant and slick-looking but it might need some darker elements if you really want to give people an accurate impression of EVE.

- The top nav system does not make it clear that you can click directly on the top element which is important because those are the landing pages. For example, going directly to The Sandbox >> Loyalist (which is what many people will do) provides absolutely no context and is confusing.

- Under The Sandbox, it makes more sense to put the personality test in the first element (far left) before the types.

- I know it gives people some sort of reference, but having the ship and the 3 little trait-type icons for the profession types is REALLY misleading and for someone coming from other games where roles are defined in-game this heavily implies that these are the traits and ships you get. I do really like the avatars you chose for these though. Big smile

- I think "Creations" is an inappropriate/misleading word for what is under that section. I think something like "Imagery" is better.

- I said this in another thread but will simply agree with what others have said, the list in the ship viewer is not efficient. The links Darsain posted are a good direction to head. I don't think any new person will have any use for the flat list, you should save yourself some room and remove the option. Also, there needs some way to tell the scale between the ships.

- The maps are cool but really useless without a legend and/or labels. What do "People and Personalities" have to do with ships lost in the last 30 days?? For politics why are we not looking at an actual sov map? I could go on but the point is this is a potentially AWESOME feature for pulling in new people but right now it doesn't really give them a good idea about what they are looking at.

- Listing the number of wormhole systems holds no meaning to new players. It would make more sense and be more interesting to call them "uncharted" systems.

- EVE Live ticker is GREAT! I think using times instead of dates for some of those entries would make it seems MORE live.

- I know it is nice to advertise that there are new expansions out and new features, but that has no reference for new/potential people. It might not make sense to have that so prominent on the main site.

- I agree with others that the video should auto-play. But while we are at it, why are my volume options only LOUD and OFF?

- The "Try EVE" button should pulse invitingly, just sayin' Big smile
Lead, Follow, or Get the #@$!@ Out of the Way.
Amarr Empire
#133 Posted: 2012.02.08 05:46
Looks nice, but it's not all that good to navigate. Stuff seems to be all over the place or in the wrong place. Bear
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#134 Posted: 2012.02.08 06:11
Overall I love the new 21st century website! :)

The Pilot Orientation video is fantastic. The lack of metagame references helps with the immersion for those who enjoy it.

Great to see some EON stories uploaded and it's very convenient for all of them to be in .epub/.mobi format for those with e-readers! Hopefully the rest of the chronicles and lore will appear soon.

I suppose t he only thing I wish is if the community site could somehow be merged with EVE Gate to minimise the amount of websites. You'd have your "splash page" (the new site) and then any current players would immediately defer to EVE Gate.
Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home.
-Cold Wind
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#135 Posted: 2012.02.08 06:53  |  Edited by: Siriniris
Again, time and work was wasted.
Not just for nothing, but for worse.

EVE website was one of the most convenient sites MMO ever had.
And now we have pretty picture and lots of adversitement. There are lot of things you can do for EVE universe, but instead of improving what cries for improvement, you spending time on changing something which better not to change.

Where is that website which allowed us to go anywhere in one click? You ruined it by scattering links through numerous drop-down menus or worse, - different pages. Navigation is most important thing for any website. And you ruined it completelly.

Community section at least resembles to normal website a bit, but still, it just a pale shadow of previous functionality.

It will be very nice to have OLD style version avilable. Or, better, just restore it completelly.
Thank you.
Gallente Federation
#136 Posted: 2012.02.08 07:23
I agree that the top-right call-to-action button could be enlarged, but I disagree with some people's feedback that it is out of place. Putting a CTA button right of the navigation and near the top-right of the page is common practice; it even notifies you (via the arrow) that it is a drop-down menu. While the usability could be improved (as always in UX, of course), I would guess that those who compare it unfavorably to the last site simply had the last one memorized.
RvB - BLUE Republic
#137 Posted: 2012.02.08 07:26
The use of WebGL is really great on my Windows workstation, but on my Macbook the ship viewer textures are flickering black every other triangle. I'm assuming the kinks will be worked out over the next few weeks.

Macbook Pro Chrome - nVidia card with 8Gigs of ram.

Also, I would recommend keeping a unified system of sites over all the sites, ie EveGate and Forums.

Caldari State
#138 Posted: 2012.02.08 07:28
So videos are still flash based? I think they should be able to be played in th igb. Doenst that work when using html 5? New Players maybe want to whatch those videos whil firing up the game for the first time ;).
#139 Posted: 2012.02.08 07:57
Meh, it took me 2 minutes to get this working under linux (Ubuntu 10.04 but I'm sure it will work for others).
Simple instructions here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Caldari State
#140 Posted: 2012.02.08 09:29
Just how finished are these sites as they currently stand, because they kind of look decidely unfinished to my untrained eye...
I am a pod pilot:
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