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#21 - 2012-05-19 02:58:41 UTC
Covert-cynos and bridging-to in hisec, pls, kthxbai.

And Back Ops buffs!!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Band of Brothers
#22 - 2012-05-19 16:50:13 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Covert-cynos and bridging-to in hisec, pls, kthxbai.

And Back Ops buffs!!

Because its not enough to be able to fly around in the near-perfect safety of highsec, you also want to be able to blackcyno your covops-fitted ships from deep safe to deep safe and avoid wartarget gatecamps completely?
#23 - 2012-05-20 11:58:52 UTC
Shobon Welp wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Covert-cynos and bridging-to in hisec, pls, kthxbai.

And Back Ops buffs!!

Because its not enough to be able to fly around in the near-perfect safety of highsec, you also want to be able to blackcyno your covops-fitted ships from deep safe to deep safe and avoid wartarget gatecamps completely?


No.

But you can keep thinking that if it makes you feel better, cupcake.

Oh, and I live in losec at the moment, and my "co-main" has lived in losec for the last 2 years.

Bring it, or shut it.

Prat.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

#24 - 2012-05-24 22:04:39 UTC
I've looked at this a couple of times with the intent to contribute, but just drop it in frustration.

Why did you post blank slates?

This isn't an agenda, its the skeleton of one.

Hans, you did a great job in FW of consolidating community ideas into a single coherent document. That would be easy to look at it and either critique or point out missing items.

This is like starting all over again as if the last nine years of discussions never happened. Crowdsourcing the idea aggregation doesn't seem to be working as these threads are as bad a mess as the rest of the forums. Trying to add a quality post here just seems futile. Spitting into the wind.

I hope at some point soon, you guys can post a more detailed agenda on these topics so that we can give feedback and try to fill in any blanks.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

Mercenary Coalition
#25 - 2012-05-27 14:10:17 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
I've looked at this a couple of times with the intent to contribute, but just drop it in frustration.

Why did you post blank slates?

This isn't an agenda, its the skeleton of one.

Hans, you did a great job in FW of consolidating community ideas into a single coherent document. That would be easy to look at it and either critique or point out missing items.

This is like starting all over again as if the last nine years of discussions never happened. Crowdsourcing the idea aggregation doesn't seem to be working as these threads are as bad a mess as the rest of the forums. Trying to add a quality post here just seems futile. Spitting into the wind.

I hope at some point soon, you guys can post a more detailed agenda on these topics so that we can give feedback and try to fill in any blanks.


Considering most of us are all getting on a plane in the next 24 hours or so, you're not going to see anything more 'detailed'. AFAIK, this is the first time a summit schedule has even been posted beforehand. We felt it important that people know what we will be talking about and get an opportunity to chime in on what they felt like those discussions should entail. You seem to be asking for some kind of official breakdown of what each 60-90 min session will consist of; that's simply not possible due to the often dynamic nature of the discussions that take place. The schedule reflects the official topics and all of the CSM members will have input on what we use that time for, but it's quite impossible to plan every aspect of these meetings out.

Using Han's massive manifesto that took him months to research and assemble as an example of what the CSM should be doing here is nuts, m8. Each of those subjects is pretty clear cut on what will be discussed and the CSM was elected on our ability to represent those discussions with CCP.

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#26 - 2012-05-28 05:00:48 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Seleene wrote:
This is the finalized schedule for CSM 7's trip to Iceland in two weeks. We have been informed that EVE Senior Producer Jon Lander will be present for nearly every session along with 'decision makers' for each of the topics under discussion.

Please note that several of these sessions are 'linked' to individual discussion threads so that the CSM can follow feedback on those topics more directly.

Quote:
Wednesday, May 30th

CSM Introduction - An introduction / greeting session with the new CSM. Typical fare for the first session in every CSM summit.

CSM White Paper - A meeting with the CSM managers on the current state of the CSM and what the future holds.

What is a Stakeholder? - We will be speaking with CCP with regard to how, exactly, they see the CSM's role as a 'stakeholder' and how to best develop that role.

Winter 2012 Expansion - CCP will discuss their plans for the 2012 Winter Expansion with the CSM.

EVE Future - CCP will present their plans for EVE beyond the Winter 2012 expansion.

The State of Incarna - The CSM does not want to be in the dark about where CCP is looking to take this feature.

Live Events - A discussion regarding the future of EVE Dev-run live events on TQ.


Thursday, May 31st

DUST 514 - The CSM will be speaking with the Executive Producer of DUST, live from Shanghai, and other members of the DUST team about their plans.

Starbase / POS Re-Work - LEGO houses in space. Let's make it happen.

Industry & Mining - When the shooting is done, someone has to re-build everything. The mechanics, UI and content for this area of the game all need a look at.

EVE U.I. - We are going to dig deeper into the future of how the game looks and plays.

Null Sec - Will Winter be the TotalHellDeath patch? What is 'The Ultimate Plan' for where CCP sees 0.0 heading?

Corporation Mechanics - This area of the game is a mess. The CSM wants to see several dozen improvements in this area to make life easier for everyone.

War Decs / Crimewatch - How to continue to make this more better good.


Friday, June 1st

Faction Warfare - What are the plans for post-Inferno work here?

EVE Art - How EVE looks is a big part of the production chain; touching base with these guys always seems to pay off.

Ship Balance & Iteration - The CSM will sit down with the ~balance bros~ and talk about spaceship power grids and CPUs and slot layouts and all that good stuff.

Content - The EVE Content team will talk to the CSM about their plans for the next 12 months.

EVE Security - The EVE Security Team will talk to the CSM about catching bad guys, killing bots, etc...

New Player Experience (NPE) - What is the ideal situation with it if there were unlimited resources? What would CCP like to do with the NPE and where is is going, if anywhere?

EVE Economy - Numbers Numbers Numbers Numbers Numbers Numbers.


Each of these sessions run from 60-90 minutes in length. Feel free to use this thread to make suggestions as to what you would like to see emerge from these sessions and the CSM will do our best to inform you with what information we can as soon as we can.



I see not 1 mention of the death of the LO/NULL sec Incursion communites here nor the impending death of the Hi SeC Incursion communities. CSM 7 has abandoned the once thriving Incursion community IMHO
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Mercenary Coalition
#27 - 2012-05-28 12:58:43 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
I see not 1 mention of the death of the LO/NULL sec Incursion communites here nor the impending death of the Hi SeC Incursion communities. CSM 7 has abandoned the once thriving Incursion community IMHO


Let me point out to you -

Winter 2012 Expansion

EVE Future

EVE Economy

Live Events

Content

I've bolded the last two as kind of a common sense thing. M8, just because the labels don't specifically say 'Incursions' does not mean they won't come up in other discussions. They always do. Smile

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#28 - 2012-05-29 20:26:43 UTC
Seleene wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
I've looked at this a couple of times with the intent to contribute, but just drop it in frustration.

Why did you post blank slates?

This isn't an agenda, its the skeleton of one.

Hans, you did a great job in FW of consolidating community ideas into a single coherent document. That would be easy to look at it and either critique or point out missing items.

This is like starting all over again as if the last nine years of discussions never happened. Crowdsourcing the idea aggregation doesn't seem to be working as these threads are as bad a mess as the rest of the forums. Trying to add a quality post here just seems futile. Spitting into the wind.

I hope at some point soon, you guys can post a more detailed agenda on these topics so that we can give feedback and try to fill in any blanks.


Considering most of us are all getting on a plane in the next 24 hours or so, you're not going to see anything more 'detailed'. AFAIK, this is the first time a summit schedule has even been posted beforehand. We felt it important that people know what we will be talking about and get an opportunity to chime in on what they felt like those discussions should entail. You seem to be asking for some kind of official breakdown of what each 60-90 min session will consist of; that's simply not possible due to the often dynamic nature of the discussions that take place. The schedule reflects the official topics and all of the CSM members will have input on what we use that time for, but it's quite impossible to plan every aspect of these meetings out.

Using Han's massive manifesto that took him months to research and assemble as an example of what the CSM should be doing here is nuts, m8. Each of those subjects is pretty clear cut on what will be discussed and the CSM was elected on our ability to represent those discussions with CCP.


Yes, I'd given up hope at seeing anything more detailed for this summit.

I do think it would be a good idea for the CSM to come up with what it's agenda is, what ideas it's pushing, beyond a list of bullet points. I don't agree that the discussions are all clear cut. There has been a ton of discussion around all of these topics, and much of it contradictory. Perhaps not the full Hans treatment, but definitely something more than this. Clearly not going to happen before the summit that is just starting now, but like you say CSM is a year round thing now.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

#29 - 2012-05-30 20:25:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Geksz
Can the CSM have a look at how could this Unified Inventory thing happen? Becouse if it went through QA and testing, CCP might be in serious trouble later...
#30 - 2012-05-31 07:00:56 UTC
I just hope thta the UI issue has left some time to talk about the rest of the Summit agenda....
#31 - 2012-05-31 08:17:59 UTC
Seleene wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
I see not 1 mention of the death of the LO/NULL sec Incursion communites here nor the impending death of the Hi SeC Incursion communities. CSM 7 has abandoned the once thriving Incursion community IMHO


Let me point out to you -

Winter 2012 Expansion

EVE Future

EVE Economy

Live Events

Content

I've bolded the last two as kind of a common sense thing. M8, just because the labels don't specifically say 'Incursions' does not mean they won't come up in other discussions. They always do. Smile


Please ask CCP Diagora about the stats around Incursions. The next unsub wave will hit in <2 weeks
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
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#32 - 2012-06-01 09:52:55 UTC
Agenda looks simply great, have a good Summit!

Looking forward to the reports.

The reason why I voted who I voted was because I felt these guys can represent my views and wishes without going through the trouble of listing all of them. Based on their previous work, blogs and posts made during their campaigns.

Isn't that the whole point of representative democracy?

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#33 - 2012-06-01 23:15:47 UTC
Roime wrote:
Agenda looks simply great, have a good Summit!

Looking forward to the reports.

The reason why I voted who I voted was because I felt these guys can represent my views and wishes without going through the trouble of listing all of them. Based on their previous work, blogs and posts made during their campaigns.

Isn't that the whole point of representative democracy?


Yeah, democratically elected representatives always work out real swell when you elect them and just let them do their jobs with no involvement from their constituents.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

Adhocracy
#34 - 2012-06-07 01:52:21 UTC
Just so long as Worm Hole mechanics aren't on the Agenda and POS management is, I can get behind this.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

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