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Dev blog: Introducing Open Buddy Invites

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#1 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:12  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
The buddy system has been a great success and lots of buddies have been invited to become important spaceship pilots since it´s birth. We've now added a whole new dimension to the buddy system with the "Open buddy invites"!

To learn more about this, please feast your eyes on CCP Delegate Zero's new blog.

And as always...leave your questions and pondering right here.

Yeah, buddy!
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#2 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:25
DEATH TO ALL PONIES

as for no more plexes from this program, I find that reasonable, because with url based recruitment it could cause some unbalanced plex concentrations.
Gallente Federation
#3 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:26  |  Edited by: Alx Warlord
Second!!!

This is good stuff!

I entered eve as a buddy, and in the first month I payed the subscription and then I invited a couple of buddies that payed their account, with this time I got enough skill in the game to run missions and get enough isk to buy plexes in the market. I already used more then 20 plex, but I plan to return to the market as soon as mi finances get comfortable...

So I have much to thank to this system that allowed me to know such a rich universe!!.
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#4 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:29
That's going to irritate the 51 day alt cyclers.

Big smile

That's not a bad thing. It's not like they're bringing any RL cash to the game. Or using up any plex
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#5 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:38
everybody needs some buddy :)
so if i invite 12, then i'll play for free for a year? :)
#6 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:38  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
It's good to know that some of the suggestions from Newsletter vol. 61 survey were accepted and now implemented Blink
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Goonswarm Federation
#7 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:43
Steve Ronuken wrote:
That's not a bad thing. It's not like they're bringing any RL cash to the game. Or using up any plex


Not emptyquoting for emphasis. The URL seems to be a pretty good way for getting the name out, but using that as a guise to nuke the PLEX-for-PLEX under the banner of "we're sure you understand" is simply not putting out enough effort to ~really~ gain understanding.
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#8 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:43  |  Edited by: Oxandrolone
so you are removing plex as a reward for what reason? just fyi ive created 4 alt accounts which are all still active through this system. The free plex was an incentive because it made it essentially free for the first month with every following month gaining you (CCP) revenue.

Removing plex as a reward offers less incentive to make new accounts which seems illogical to me so can you guys explain why this is being removed? is it being abused by players making full accounts or something? Now that i think about it it probably is abused in this way.

Maybe its also a way to get people to buy the initial game on direct debit and then have to continue to plex whereas currently if you upgrade a trial account through plex you dont have to pay for the client again.

If you want people to post this url around the web, in their signatures etc then you should be giving them as much incentive as possible not removing incentives.
Amarr Empire
#9 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:47  |  Edited by: Tanaka Aiko
I understand the need to avoid abuse (and from what I heard there's a lot of that...), but I hope you know that means people won't use this anymore when in need of alt accounts, they'll have to wait for the next power of two (or accept to pay more) if the $$ option is the only one left for upgrading and gain something. So it can lower the future real accounts.

Also your public things this a bit too close to a way to make us battle against each others to recruit people, so we do more of your job, so I hope you have a nice thing around ready, or tinfoil hats will spread :P
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#10 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:50
Warr Akini wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
That's not a bad thing. It's not like they're bringing any RL cash to the game. Or using up any plex


Not emptyquoting for emphasis. The URL seems to be a pretty good way for getting the name out, but using that as a guise to nuke the PLEX-for-PLEX under the banner of "we're sure you understand" is simply not putting out enough effort to ~really~ gain understanding.


U still get the plex but only if your "friend" pays with cash.
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Gallente Federation
#11 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:56
I honestly don't think changing it is going to make me use the Buddy System. Not because I don't want to, I just don't know anyone in real life who's interested in playing EVE aside from the few that already play it.

Also, the pictures at the bottom of the devblog ruined it completely.
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#12 Posted: 2012.10.29 14:57
Reflink best link Big smile
Goonswarm Federation
#13 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:03
Zloco Crendraven wrote:
[U still get the plex but only if your "friend" pays with cash.


Not "how" but "why" is what I'm looking for here, whether it's nerfing FW again, nerfing alt inflation (that's not even a term but I made it up so there), trying to keep PLEX prices down, etc.

And you are truly late on fighting FW alt propagation, seeing as how you've just nerfed its money-making potential into the ground (and with it my beautiful 50b freighter killmails full of nothing but +5s).
Otherworld Empire
#14 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:04  |  Edited by: Chribba
I wonder what this will open up hehe

This is a pretty cool change though. Will this at all affect the affiliate program?

/c
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#15 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:11
First page! Roll

This is a very nice change, especially as the new goodies keep attracting more people :D

But I have to comment about the Plex-for-Plex removal. Although I completely understand the reason behind it and support it being removed until there are ways to secure it from the obvious abuse , I would urge you to try and find a reasonable way to return it. From the point of view of a small corporation starting it was a real big help,as it made it really easier to convince friends to join,try it and get hooked Twisted

But, jokes aside, the plex given to them was by far the biggest boost I've seen .It instantly made them not think like other MMOs/games they played and forget about needing to make ISK at least for the first months,focusing on what they find more enjoyable to do, rather than trying to "level up" their character in the traditional non-sandbox way.
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#16 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:12
Chribba wrote:
I wonder what this will open up hehe

This is a pretty cool change though. Will this at all affect the affiliate program?

/c

Also, this. Will the direct buddy invite programm still be available? If yes is it changed as well according to the new rules?
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#17 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:16
Magic Crisp wrote:
everybody needs some buddy :)
so if i invite 12, then i'll play for free for a year? :)

If they all upgrade using real money, yes.
#18 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:29
ROFL at the ponies

Anyway, I see spammers in our future...
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#19 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:35  |  Edited by: CCP Delegate Zero
Let me answer a few of the arising questions.

Rewards

The PLEX reward remains as an option, alongside 30 days of game time, whenever a buddy upgrades their account using an eligible payment method other than a PLEX.

As a note, if it is not clear, if a buddy upgrades their account using a PLEX the 30 days game time reward is still available to the inviter.

Direct invites

The direct, one-to-one invite option remains available and operates on the same terms as the open invite as regards rewards: PLEX upgrades will only make the game time reward available.

Affiliate Program

The affiliate program is a completely different scheme and is unaffected by changes to the Buddy Program.


Thanks for your feedback so far, we'll continue to monitor this thread and clarify any points as necessary. Also do feel free to make suggestions for additions and improvements to the program in the future.
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#20 Posted: 2012.10.29 15:42  |  Edited by: Arydanika
This is and interesting change. I don't really feel it's good or bad, just a different way of doing things. I can see how this can be good for players who just want to put an advertisement up and get people in to the game. The free game time will be good for them. The removal of PLEX-for-PLEX is understandable with this a single unlimited link (and also if CCP wanted to nerf 51 day accounts Sad) , but I'm not sure if it's the best course of action for all.

I say that because I have a fan site. Having a image link where people who are interested in Eve and want to try it is great. I don't have to worry about individual links and can just set it up and not worry about maintenance and other annoying crap. The flip side is, as a fan site I have no need for free monthly game time for the account that link will be linked to. That's already one of the benefits for being a fan site. The Plex was a great option for fan sites because they can used as prizes for events and contests I hold. While there is certainly a benefit for CCP and new players, the benefits for my listeners and I have been removed.

In retrospect of typing this post I suppose I could route the link through one of my alts, but they're pretty much taken care of as well. I'd rather have a way to convert that time in to something else that would benefit my fan site. That was one of the great things about PLEX-for-PLEX (and the 51day alts).

I hope the community team will takes the time to revisit this change and provide other benefits for fan sites.

Edit: Nevermind. I didn't see the Dev post above or the tiny link at the bottom of the buddy invite page prior to posting. I'll hold further judgement until I read the affiliate program stuffs.
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