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The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-18 16:05:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
So I had eyes on a Caldari Ice belt last night... Prime Time too.

Everyone is minding their own business for a an hour or two and then I finally see 4 catalysts pop a Mack. This is actually not that unsual for the system.

As my friends quickly snag all the loot, we wait for more of a show to happen.

Then a covertor shows up in the belt and for the rest of the night (probaly 2 hours) it mines away with impunity.

We were waiting for them to get concord to show up somewhere else by using an Ibis to pull them away, but sadly no one did anything for the rest of the night even after another belt spawned.

There were plenty of retreivers and mack shooting their lasers at the Ice roids.

Some friends in the belt (AKA Those who were in the category of caution) were using Skiffs with 75K EPH getting boosts with their bulk head tanked Orcas sitting off 0m from the a nearby station so they could quickly warp to it and dump there loads.

I saw a few Skiffs have the balls to bring out an indy and can mining yet no one was molesting them.

So this whole Ice Belt mining doesn't really seem to be stopping the flow of Ice.

Plenty of people still ice mining in non-skiffs and there was 1 gank for about 4 hours of watching.

So I can only assume the rise in Ice prices has something to do with market speculation because even though the belts may not have bot balls (which I think is maybe the nicest thing about this) but the belts are still being mined out and the ice is still flowing.

Which is just making the ice miners rich with the current prices. Whooptie doo.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-08-18 16:08:20 UTC
CCP's Mandatory 4-Hour Cooldown Period seems to have some side-effects. Bear

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#3 - 2013-08-18 16:13:51 UTC
As I predicted and posted on GD months ago, the new ice mining mechanic would adversely affect gankers much more than miners.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-18 16:19:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
As I predicted and posted on GD months ago, the new ice mining mechanic would adversely affect gankers much more than miners.


Yeah that seems to be the case. Intel says they are much more active right after downtime because they know the belt is up, but after that its a crapshoot to know when the belt will be back.

No ganker worth his salt wants to sit in a system wait 4 hours until a belt spawns.

Unless they have miner friends who secretly passes them info about when the belt spawns happen.

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#5 - 2013-08-18 16:21:22 UTC
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Just Lilly
#6 - 2013-08-18 16:28:37 UTC
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ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#7 - 2013-08-18 16:32:11 UTC
So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot?Ugh

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-18 16:42:29 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot?Ugh


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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-18 16:46:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
ArmyOfMe wrote:
So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot?Ugh


I sat in Jita for hours during burn Jita. At least that was midly entertaining. This... Not so much.

PS there might have been some bumping involved. Hopefully that doesn't give me away.

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Jim Era
#10 - 2013-08-18 16:52:04 UTC
who mines ice? vled is where its at.

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Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-18 17:03:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Moneta Curran
I thought it wasn't starting until after down-time today.. so you could be jumping the gun with that assessment.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#12 - 2013-08-18 17:15:56 UTC
Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough? Blink
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#13 - 2013-08-18 17:18:29 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough? Blink


Because suicide ganking is manly. Suicide ganking is like, the lowest form of PvP.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2013-08-18 17:19:16 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:
I thought it was starting until after down-time today.. so you could be jumping the gun with that assessment.



Make of this what you will: "Caldari highsec for an ice interdiction beginning on or about August 18 and running for a month, give or take." http://themittani.com/news/cfc-announces-caldari-ice-interdiction

"On or about" kinda leaves things wide open.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2013-08-18 17:42:47 UTC
Hot GANKING action. See blasters overheat, EVE is real.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#16 - 2013-08-18 17:54:56 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
So I had eyes on a Caldari Ice belt last night... Prime Time too.

Everyone is minding their own business for a an hour or two and then I finally see 4 catalysts pop a Mack. This is actually not that unsual for the system.

As my friends quickly snag all the loot, we wait for more of a show to happen.

Then a covertor shows up in the belt and for the rest of the night (probaly 2 hours) it mines away with impunity.

We were waiting for them to get concord to show up somewhere else by using an Ibis to pull them away, but sadly no one did anything for the rest of the night even after another belt spawned.

There were plenty of retreivers and mack shooting their lasers at the Ice roids.

Some friends in the belt (AKA Those who were in the category of caution) were using Skiffs with 75K EPH getting boosts with their bulk head tanked Orcas sitting off 0m from the a nearby station so they could quickly warp to it and dump there loads.

I saw a few Skiffs have the balls to bring out an indy and can mining yet no one was molesting them.

So this whole Ice Belt mining doesn't really seem to be stopping the flow of Ice.

Plenty of people still ice mining in non-skiffs and there was 1 gank for about 4 hours of watching.

So I can only assume the rise in Ice prices has something to do with market speculation because even though the belts may not have bot balls (which I think is maybe the nicest thing about this) but the belts are still being mined out and the ice is still flowing.

Which is just making the ice miners rich with the current prices. Whooptie doo.



You understand that people are more about talk than action right?
And really, the talk was about manipulating the price of ice products to make a profit, nothing more.

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Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-08-18 18:07:17 UTC
Yep, the interdiction was all talk and bluster and no action, continue mining safely folks. Don't worry about fitting extra tank you won't need it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2013-08-18 18:08:10 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Yep, the interdiction was all talk and bluster and no action, continue mining safely folks. Don't worry about fitting extra tank you won't need it.

Max yield again. Might want those deadspace shield boosters for the rats, you know ~

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#19 - 2013-08-18 18:33:10 UTC
I heard there are freighters dying in the ice belts and the carnage is ramping up
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2013-08-18 18:41:57 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I heard there are freighters dying in the ice belts and the carnage is ramping up


My god its full of ice.
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