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A message regarding vandalism of the EVE Universe Monument

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#1 - 2014-05-07 15:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Hey guys,

It's with a heavy heart that I have to speak in relation to the damage that was done to the EVE Universe Monument just four days after it was unveiled.

Firstly, I'll say that the fact that the monument was vandalized is an insult to the entire community, not just to the individual who's name was directly targeted by the vandalism. Thankfully with the assistance of a number of members of the community, including some of those who were involved with the incident and other members of their own alliance, we've been able to make headway in identifying those responsible.

Secondly, we would like to reiterate that we do not tolerate this kind of behavior and will continue to operate a zero tolerance approach to dealing with harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe.

As such, three individuals have been permanently removed from the EVE Community. A total of 7 EVE Online accounts, and 1 DUST 514 account belonging to them have been permanently banned. Another individual who was indirectly involved in the vandalism has received a 6 month ban from EVE Online on their sole registered account.

The four individuals involved are also blacklisted permanently from attending future Fanfest events.

While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.

With this in mind, we now consider this issue resolved within the EVE Universe, and any further action taken outside the virtual world relating to criminal damage or recovery of costs for repairs to the EVE Universe Monument will remain confidential between CCP Games, the authorities, and those involved.

This thread will be left open for discussion, be sure to keep it on topic, with no personal attacks and finger pointing. This is a pretty sensitive subject for some members of the community, and as such people who break the rules will lose their forum posting privileges.

Thanks.

CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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Caldari State
#2 - 2014-05-07 16:06:12 UTC
Sad that it had to come to this

Pog mo thoin

The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#3 - 2014-05-07 16:07:14 UTC
Glad to hear no naming will be done, seems appropriate all round.
Cheers for the update Falcon

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#4 - 2014-05-07 16:07:51 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Sad that it had to come to this

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#5 - 2014-05-07 16:07:51 UTC
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#6 - 2014-05-07 16:08:35 UTC
Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?

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#7 - 2014-05-07 16:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
What steps has CCP taken (or plans to take) to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

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The Bastion
#8 - 2014-05-07 16:09:11 UTC
Is the Icelandic judicial system involved? I know it's a crime, but how far is CCP going?
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#9 - 2014-05-07 16:10:56 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
What steps has CCP taken to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

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#10 - 2014-05-07 16:11:14 UTC
It is good that the issue has been resolved.

We should stick to bashing each other in-game and on the forums and keep it separate from real life.

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The Initiative.
#11 - 2014-05-07 16:11:17 UTC
mkint wrote:
Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?


The guys that turned themselves in only got permabanned.

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Destination SkillQueue
#12 - 2014-05-07 16:11:46 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
Is the Icelandic judicial system involved? I know it's a crime, but how far is CCP going?

That is probably an issue between CCP, the criminal system and the accused. We don't have any need to know.
EvE-Scout Enclave
#13 - 2014-05-07 16:13:23 UTC
From the outside looking in, this seems to have been dealt with very quickly and calmly.

Well done, CCP.

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Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-05-07 16:13:55 UTC
mkint wrote:
Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?

The soft response CCP took here was to ban the guy instead of letting the police investigate the matter any further.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-05-07 16:16:44 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
What steps has CCP taken (or plans to take) to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?



Only thing they could really do is install ballistic perspex over it. But it would have to be replaced due to weathering

Pog mo thoin

Villore Accords
#16 - 2014-05-07 16:17:23 UTC
Good, no need for people like that in game.
#17 - 2014-05-07 16:18:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
mkint wrote:
Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?


The guys that turned themselves in only got permabanned.



Yeah, just a permaban, vs. permaban, and whatever legal and criminal actions CCP and the authorities are taking.

It's sad when crap like this happens, but...humanity sucks at times.

If any of the mentioned alliance members are reading this, you guys did the honorable thing. It may not feel honorable ratting out a "buddy" like that, but a person like that really isn't that great a friend in the end. Thanks for that.

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Scary Wormhole People
#18 - 2014-05-07 16:18:46 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Glad to hear no naming will be done, seems appropriate all round.
Cheers for the update Falcon

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Thanks CCP, for taking care of this in the utmost professional way.

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#19 - 2014-05-07 16:20:20 UTC
Marcus Trial wrote:
mkint wrote:
Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk?

The soft response CCP took here was to ban the guy instead of letting the police investigate the matter any further.

So the lesson is to be better at not getting caught? It's not like any government is going to extradite someone to iceland over vandalism. Vandalism laws are barely even enforced in most US cities, unless there's assault charges involved too. I mean, it's not like there's never going to be real world crimes involved in EVE ever again.

I would definitely not mind seeing the guys beat black and blue over it, but bruises fade, but permabans are forever.

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RvB - RED Federation
#20 - 2014-05-07 16:20:39 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Sad that it had to come to this


No doubt.


Also Falcon, that was some speedy investigating there, certainly helped along by the culprits own alliance mates. Kudos to them for shopping these people to you.
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