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Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-30 09:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
I am withdrawing my bid for the CSM. I hope that is satisfactory for those who consider this more than just a game.
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-30 09:46:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
*snip*
Northern Coalition.
#3 - 2015-01-30 10:06:47 UTC
+1

I've witnessed or participated in many conversations that Marlona has contributed to in various fora. He thinks critically about the pain points that affect Eve and its players and has demonstrated an ability to raise their profile and widen the conversation, bringing attention to them. Bonus: whenever he highlights an issue he usually has an idea for a solution in his back pocket as well.

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#4 - 2015-01-30 11:20:15 UTC
+1

You've been a strong content provider and critic within the game for a long time, and I've enjoyed following the discussions and hearing your perspective over the last few years. You'll definitely be on my ballot and I'm excited to see you have an opportunity to move into a delegate role. Your experience and knowledge of the game will be an asset to the CSM. Good luck!

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#5 - 2015-01-30 12:27:36 UTC
+1

Enjoyed working with Marlona - he's someone who always took the time to thoroughly explain their position even when in heated debate. Oh, and most of those times I ended being swayed to his side. Good communicator, and very knowledgable.

Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.

CAStabouts
#6 - 2015-01-30 12:28:34 UTC
+1

That is all.
Northern Coalition.
#7 - 2015-01-30 13:07:13 UTC
Also: dat Nereus.

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#8 - 2015-01-30 13:23:10 UTC
About time! You'll definitely be getting top tier votes from my accounts. I enjoy reading the well-thought-out ideas in your blog and forum posts and had a great time working with you on The Paradox. Your experience, new-player-friendly perspective, and consequence-driven insights would make you a very valuable member of CSMX.

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Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-01-30 14:34:19 UTC
My name is Bhock and I am one of the contributor of the Capstable Podcast.

In early 2014 our podcast interviewed a great majority of the candidates for CSM9 and we will be doing the same for CSM10.

Here is our announcement: http://capstable.net/2014/12/01/council-of-stellar-management-x-call-for-candidate-interviews/

As we stated in the announcement, you can contact us to schedule (quickly, interview season is almost over) your one on one interview via any of the following methods:

Email: podcast@capstable.net
Twitter: @CapStable
Or via our contact form

We look forward to speaking to you about your particular skill set and expertise in EVE Online and we hope you success in your candidacy.

Sincerely,

Bhock
Contributor of the Capstable Podcast
Oh My Bad
#10 - 2015-01-30 14:43:54 UTC
Am I reading this right? or has Marlona Sky been hacked :/ .. Glad you're finally running for CSM, going to do my best to help promote your campaign! (not that you'll need any help).
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2015-01-30 15:38:10 UTC
Marolona,

As you know, the NDA is extremely important for the CSM to do its work, and there have been past CSMs (Darius III, specifically) who did not take the NDA seriously and leaked a number of CSM skype logs. One can only assume this has reduced the willingness of CCP to work with the CSM.

Given your history of leaking logs from past jobs you've worked at, like the themittani.com logs that you dumped on failheap (without any personal information removed, and with absolutely nothing interesting in them), how would you respond to voter concerns that you, too, might leak logs from the CSM like Darius III?

Thanks!
#12 - 2015-01-30 16:10:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Adding to EvilweaselFinance's question regarding leaking information which included people's out of game details such as their real names etc, the distince irony in which you (Marlona) asserted that the reason for CCP's supposed hesitance in keeping the CSM in the loop was because "it has become very apparent to them and even the player base - there is some loose lips on the CSM."

You have a history of leaking private logs, as illustrated here, and a distinct unwilligness to accept responsibility for not removing individuals personal information (real names, emails etc.) from those logs when confronted. I'm curious, how do you feel your membership on CSM 10 would improve the image that the CSM does not have "loose lips" to CCP?
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-01-30 16:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
*snip*
#14 - 2015-01-30 16:53:04 UTC
I have removed some rule breaking posts.

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Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.



This is a CSM campaign thread, keep it civil please!

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Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2015-01-30 17:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Marlona sent me this response, which I'd like to respond to publicly:

Quote:

hi
From: Marlona Sky
Sent: 2015.01.30 17:13
To: EvilweaselFinance

I don't mind questions about my campaign, but ones that are filled with wild exagerations and lies the ISD team will have a field day with. What you are asking about is basically apples and oranges. There was no personal information leaked. TMC had no NDA and the jabber channel was widely shared constantly with goons and the rest of CFC during THE ENTIRE TIME I WAS THERE.

I get this might be the very crux of your entire Grrr Marlona campaign, but you need far better ammo than that. Especially some that does not rely on bending/breaking the truth in what really happened.

So again, you can ask questions, just make sure to do some fact checking. Maybe someone told you wrong, which for that I appologize for being so abrasive right now. I just will not tolerate those rummors, which I'm guessing why the ISD team removed them.

Again, feel free to ask questions, but just keep them based on truth. It is what I want and ultimatly what CCP wants.


My response to this is the below:

My question was quite respectfully phrased, and you had every chance to challenge the facts. I think it says enough that your defense is to get the post erased. There are legitimate arguments you could make about why they're different, of course. But if it was a ~grr marlona~ campaign then some PL guy I've never spoken to probably wouldn't have agreed with me.

I've looked at the evidence myself and I don't agree with your defenses. Number 1, leaking people's personal information was reckless and you should have known better. It probably was a mistake because you didn't really think through what would happen, but it is compounded by your refusal to admit that it was wrong and actually lying about if it happened. Number 2, it's not covered by an NDA but it is a violation of social trust that people put in you that speaks to your character.

That you leaked the logs is uncontested. You deny that personal information was in the logs, but that's been convincingly disproven over and over again and at this point in time it's your word against the logs themselves. If you were correct, it would be easy to prove I was wrong - and that's something you'd welcome if you were correct. After all, the logs (and scrapheap) are relatively objective sources.

You think the situations are different and that there are extenuating circumstances or other relevant facts but that's not telling me that my question is not based on "truth", that's telling me you disagree with my interpretation of the uncontested facts. If there's other facts that are relevant, the appropriate response would be to share those as well. Trying to get the questions erased and avoid any public discussion of the issue is not.
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-30 17:28:11 UTC
+1

i have read a lot of your observations/opinions on various outlets Marlona, and agree with most of what you say. For that reason you will be at the top of my list with Manny. In fact you both seem to have similar views on how the game should work which is a big plus for me.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.

Caldari State
#17 - 2015-01-30 17:29:27 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
+1

i have read a lot of your observations/opinions on various outlets Marlona, and agree with most of what you say. For that reason you will be at the top of my list with Manny. In fact you both seem to have similar views on how the game should work which is a big plus for me.

Thanks very much. Manny on the CSM is a solid choice.
#18 - 2015-01-30 17:34:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts.

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The Tuskers Co.
#19 - 2015-01-30 17:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Flidais Asagiri
**** EDITED by Flidais Asagiri ****

Personal attack and non-constructive content.

Keep posts on topic and constructive.
#20 - 2015-01-30 17:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Tallardar
Here, I'll post it in a different way.

Marlona, you asserted that the reason for CCP's supposed hesitance in keeping the CSM in the loop (as cited by Sion Kumitomo in the CSM 9 Year In Review dev blog) was because "it has become very apparent to them and even the player base - there is some loose lips on the CSM." Should you get elected, what do you feel would make your involvement with CSM 10 any different, given your past behavior?

Regarding the statement that "no personal information was leaked" in those logs: Lucia Denniard, who you had host the logs, can attest that personal information was in the original logs you provided. She was requested to remove any references to people's real world names, and had to run a script to remove that information. This can be proven when comparing the logs hosted to the original logs.

Since the CSM has had issues with, as you put it, "loose lips" what do you feel makes you exempt from that stigma if you were elected to CSM 10?
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