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[Scylla] Change to the CSPA charge default.

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#1 - 2015-03-02 17:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Lebowski
Afternoon Space Friends,

Another quick post here to let you know of a change Five-0 have ready for testing on Singularity.

When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.

For any existing characters that have their CSPA charge still at the default of 2950 ISK, the charge will also be changed to 0 ISK. Characters that have chosen to set their charge to any other value will be unaffected. All characters can still configure this setting as normal (via the Settings option in the Mail window).

In general, we want to be enabling social interaction in EVE rather than blocking it. The anti-spam value of this feature did not outweigh the downsides of requiring players (especially new players) to pay in order to talk to each other. Most experienced players already change their CSPA charge to 0, so we do not expect this change to negatively affect a large number of players.

As always we're looking for feedback (in this thread) and reports on any issues found (using the in-game bug reporting tool) with this change.

Thanks in advance!

CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0

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#2 - 2015-03-02 17:35:00 UTC
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Darkblad
#3 - 2015-03-02 17:35:11 UTC
Finally!
Thank you Smile

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#4 - 2015-03-02 17:35:49 UTC
We did ask about raising the limits to but :P

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#5 - 2015-03-02 17:36:20 UTC
Yay!

Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)

Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.

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Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-03-02 17:37:12 UTC
As someone who chats with a LOT of Rookies.

About time and Thank You

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#7 - 2015-03-02 17:39:26 UTC
Another change firmly in the Win column! well played!
Tactical-Retreat
#8 - 2015-03-02 17:56:26 UTC
@CSM: Stop slacking on the forums and validade the damn devblog!! Big smile

Given the number of people telling everyone to set the CSPA at 0, this is definitely a good change. I just hope it doesn't comes with an increase in the number of spam bots.

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#9 - 2015-03-02 17:59:59 UTC
Thank goodness. The cost and annoyance of helping rookies gets fixed.
Mercenary Coalition
#10 - 2015-03-02 18:06:32 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Yay!

Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)

Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.


^^ This. All of this.

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Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-02 18:21:17 UTC
Wait... The ISk doesn't go to the player...

Hahaha oh lord..... That's just so sad it's funny.

Yaay!!!!

Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-03-02 18:31:26 UTC
Great change

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Sir Livingston
#13 - 2015-03-02 18:47:21 UTC
Finally

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Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2015-03-02 18:52:02 UTC
bad idea
Darkblad
#15 - 2015-03-02 18:59:26 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)
Not that much of a creative way to scam people, or is it? But that's what this would be used for the minute TQ is live after patch deployment.

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Blades of Grass
#16 - 2015-03-02 19:05:17 UTC
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Big smile
#17 - 2015-03-02 19:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Liner Xiandra
Morwen Lagann wrote:

Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void.


This please.
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-03-02 19:07:33 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
We did ask about raising the limits to but :P


Aww... I was hoping it was this when I opened the thread. But fair enough, I hope it work out as intended.
#19 - 2015-03-02 19:10:00 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Wait... The ISk doesn't go to the player...


If the isk goes to the player then the game is paying/incentivising people to put up a communication block. If you don't have a CSPA charge then you are earning less money than you could be and playing sub-optimally. Having the money go to the player would be an unmitigated disaster and would harm the game. The current system of the money disappearing out of the game is the only reasonable approach for this feature.

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#20 - 2015-03-02 19:34:18 UTC
CCP Lebowski wrote:
Afternoon Space Friends,

Another quick post here to let you know of a change Five-0 have ready for testing on Singularity.

When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.

For any existing characters that have their CSPA charge still at the default of 2950 ISK, the charge will also be changed to 0 ISK. Characters that have chosen to set their charge to any other value will be unaffected. All characters can still configure this setting as normal (via the Settings option in the Mail window).

In general, we want to be enabling social interaction in EVE rather than blocking it. The anti-spam value of this feature did not outweigh the downsides of requiring players (especially new players) to pay in order to talk to each other. Most experienced players already change their CSPA charge to 0, so we do not expect this change to negatively affect a large number of players.

As always we're looking for feedback (in this thread) and reports on any issues found (using the in-game bug reporting tool) with this change.

Thanks in advance!



Finally.

Spam hasn't been a problem for a long while.

Thanks for this change.

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