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Gorga’s removal from CSM 10

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#1 - 2015-08-04 11:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Leeloo
Hi everyone,

I am here today to bring you an important message regarding the removal of a CSM member – Gorga.

The reason for his removal is the unacceptable level of participation that we have witnessed in a past few months. While we understand that real life issues can interfere with CSM duties, we expect every member of the Council to participate actively in our internal discussions.

His inactivity was brought to the attention of CCP by the CSM and after discussing the situation with them, and agreeing with their request to remove him from the council for inactivity, he will be removed today.

As per mechanism that we established last year, we are replacing Gorga with the next candidate in line. We have already re-run the STV script and according to the calculations UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative.

I would like to point out that this is not an exception and we will continue replacing inactive members in the future. You will be able to read more about these rules in the updated white paper that will be published before the next election.

CCP Leeloo

CCP Leeloo | Community Developer | @ccp_leeloo | leeloo@ccpgames.com

Northern Coalition.
#2 - 2015-08-04 11:37:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Bam Stroker
Now only one heartbeat away. *wrings hands*

Seriously though, good that the Russians are getting some representation and I hope that he'll be an active and contributing member of the CSM.

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Hard Knocks Citizens
#3 - 2015-08-04 11:41:03 UTC
Good call, although it is a shame to see him replaced by someone who has been nearly as inactive ingame the last 6 months or so as Gorga was when he ran for CSM. Xdeath's a good dude though. Don't necessarily agree with his viewpoints on sov, but you need the full gamut of positions to voiced.
#4 - 2015-08-04 11:43:45 UTC
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?
#5 - 2015-08-04 11:47:40 UTC
Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this

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UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative


I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2015-08-04 11:51:57 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?

We are looking into this.

CCP Leeloo | Community Developer | @ccp_leeloo | leeloo@ccpgames.com

WE FORM V0LTA
#7 - 2015-08-04 12:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: SerratedX
Soolarize wrote:
Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.


First of all the Eve forums are not a great place to actually discuss stuff going on in the game. The vast majority of sub-forums are infested by trolls or just totally clueless people who have no idea of what is going on and the ISD are doing a subpar job curtailing it. There are a a couple decent subs, for example the WH forum. There is a reason CSM dudes and other noteworthy persons (the ones creating content for others) mostly post on r/eve (which you already read), FHC, twitter and the like.

The reason you see posts about happenings in nullsec, nullsec and wormholes is because those people are making **** happen. They organised themselves into communities that provide content and thus enjoyment of the game. They are the ones posting about battles happening because guess what, ain't no **** happening in hisec apart from suicide ganks and market failures.

I would also argue that newbie friendly organisations such as Pandemic Horde, KarmaFleet, E-UNI and such are much better for the game than a random mission running hisec corp that no one has ever heard of, has no significant internal culture, no voice communications etc.

Im sure there a plenty of people who mostly play in hisec and enjoy the game that way. While there maybe aren't many "jesus features" (like the new sov system) for hisec to point to, the vast majority of game changes affect hisec too. For example, UI changes, ship balancing and corporation management improvements.

We have had a dedicated hisec CSM representative in the past and it sucked.
Northern Coalition.
#8 - 2015-08-04 12:37:19 UTC
Soolarize wrote:
I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.


If the CSM were appointed this might not be an issue but since it's elected that means in order for hisec to get people on the council they need to communicate with each other and get organised. They need opinion leaders to emerge from their community who publish their ideas and actively promote themselves to their own would-be constituents. It's hard for hiseccers though because unlike more PvP oriented players in WHs, low and nullsec they tend to stick themselves or play in small, insulated groups. A committed hisec CSM candidate could pull together enough support to get up provided they were prepared to do the legwork over a long period of time.

In other words - and I mean no offense - but the lack of hisec voices on CSM is a reflection on hisec players; not an inherent flaw in the system.

That said, current CSM Mike Azariah in particular is a great advocate for hisec, and whatever their in-game proclivities, any decent CSM will attempt to look at Eve holistically in addition to bringing their own particular expertise to the table.

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#9 - 2015-08-04 12:43:51 UTC
Looking forward to working with UAxDeath!

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Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2015-08-04 13:01:04 UTC
The Dream is still alive!!

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Northern Coalition.
#11 - 2015-08-04 13:09:06 UTC
CCP Leeloo wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?

We are looking into this.


I believe Fuzzysteve has already put something in fuzzworks for this?
#12 - 2015-08-04 13:15:49 UTC
cross post from /r/eve ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3fqig6/gorga_removed_from_csm_by_ccp/ctqzln5 ):

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Whoa whoa hang on, hold the phone.

UAxDEATH has had some real questions on even being eligible for the CSM since by all accounts he works for a gaming development company which by CCP's rules is not allowed.

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CCP employees, ISD volunteers, CCP interns, CCP affiliates, CCP strategic partners or employees of other gaming companies/games and family members of CCP are all ineligible to run for the CSM.


https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-x-candidacy-now-open/

He works for a company called Digital Forest, which has these current projects in motion.


Any comment on why he's eligible for being a CSM?
EvE-Scout Enclave
#13 - 2015-08-04 13:17:14 UTC
Regardless of who is affected, I'm very glad to see action being taken to remove inactive, non-responsive CSM members. Those elected should take the work of the council seriously and actively contribute or GTFO.

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Legion of xXDEATHXx
#14 - 2015-08-04 13:23:00 UTC  |  Edited by: UAxDEATH
Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.


PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following )
Triumvirate.
#15 - 2015-08-04 13:29:48 UTC
UAxDEATH Congratulations!
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-08-04 13:43:37 UTC
Soolarize wrote:
Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this

Quote:
UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative


I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...

I don't quite see the problem with this one. CCP is currently working on major Null overhaul, it won't hurt to have a lot of people actively involved in Null life in position of "sanity check" which is part of what CSM is.
#17 - 2015-08-04 13:45:05 UTC
CCP Leeloo wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?

We are looking into this.


Fantastic I very much look forward to this.
#18 - 2015-08-04 13:55:51 UTC
The Bastion
#19 - 2015-08-04 15:13:11 UTC
Congratulations, UAxDeath!
Plucky Adventurers
#20 - 2015-08-04 15:58:35 UTC
UAxDEATH wrote:
Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.


PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following )


This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!

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