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Vote Xenuria: CSM 11 - Reform The CSM

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#1 - 2015-12-18 17:14:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
The Short Version
I am officially announcing my candidacy for the 11th Council of Stellar Management.
I will be running solely as a reform candidate.
If elected I will advocate for sweeping reforms to the CSM, it's relationship dynamics with CCP and the electoral process itself.


The Long Version


~Not Long Ago~
There was a time when I ran as a reformist candidate and was laughed at by the mainstream establishment, one former CSM member even went so far as to compare my reforms to the gestapo. This was a time of great trepidation and ignorance a wellspring of naivety and uncertainty.

~Soon After~
Controversy after controversy rattled the CSM and the eve community. Absentee delegates, NDA Violators and other assorted cloves of drama and dysfunction. Discord and demagoguery reign like a paranoid tyrant.

~Present Day~
The multitudes cry out for reform as the very foundations of the eve community tremble.

Vote XENURIA CSM
This wouldn't be a Xenuria thread without a vain selfie so, here.
Cannon.Fodder
#2 - 2015-12-18 17:50:47 UTC
Define reform

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#3 - 2015-12-18 19:49:47 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Define reform


noun
1.
the improvement or amendment of what is wrong, corrupt, unsatisfactory, etc.:
social reform; spelling reform.
2.
an instance of this.
3.
the amendment of conduct, belief, etc.

verb (used with object)
4.
to change to a better state, form, etc.; improve by alteration, substitution, abolition, etc.
5.
to cause (a person) to abandon wrong or evil ways of life or conduct.
6.
to put an end to (abuses, disorders, etc.).
7.
Chemistry. to subject to the process of reforming, as in refining petroleum.
verb (used without object)
8.
to abandon evil conduct or error:
The drunkard promised to reform.
Against ALL Authorities
#4 - 2015-12-18 20:19:30 UTC
As former diplomat and leadership of Against ALL Authorities, an alliance of Russian known for our equal opportunity advancement and tolerance program, I fully support Xenuria.
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-12-18 21:10:00 UTC
First off: I somehow like you.

Eventhough i only saw some parts of your extended discussion in corp chat.

You jump to conclusions pretty quick. You get emotional. You get pretty attached to your point of view.

But you don't back off that easily & you certainly don't let others overtalk you.

pretty much the shithead the CSM could realy use.


so eventhough I'm not sure if you're pretty clever or maximum borderline I'll support you.


Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2015-12-18 22:05:33 UTC
A vote for Xenuria is a trendy vote.

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Northern Coalition.
#7 - 2015-12-18 22:07:14 UTC
A vote for Xenuria is a vote for Turtlenecks.
#8 - 2015-12-19 02:41:04 UTC
Orontes Ovasi wrote:
A vote for Xenuria is a vote for Turtlenecks.



Unclear weather this is bad or good. Turtlenecks look good with leather skirts.

Will gank for food

Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2015-12-19 14:57:03 UTC
A vote for Xenuria is a vote for entropy. Xenuria '16!
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2015-12-20 06:33:02 UTC
I first met Xenuria a few years back at a fanfest this one time. I won't go in to that any further, but what I will say is that he has matured greatly in those few years, especially after [REDACTED].

Xenuria will have a top 3 spot on my ballot.

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A Band Apart.
#11 - 2015-12-20 06:51:26 UTC
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?
#12 - 2015-12-20 14:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?


I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items.
Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.

I am an individual that is part of something larger.

I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.

Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.
A Band Apart.
#13 - 2015-12-21 10:47:40 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?


I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items.
Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.

I am an individual that is part of something larger.

I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.

Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.


You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later.

I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate.
#14 - 2015-12-21 16:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?


I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items.
Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.

I am an individual that is part of something larger.

I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.

Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.


You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later.

I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate.


Ok, I'll bite.

Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative.

For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example.


Q What are your reforms?
A Uhhh

Q How would you reform the CSM NDA?
A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom.


On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Illusion of Solitude
#15 - 2015-12-21 21:34:23 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?


I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items.
Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.

I am an individual that is part of something larger.

I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.

Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.


You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later.

I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate.


Ok, I'll bite.

Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative.

For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example.


Q What are your reforms?
A Uhhh

Q How would you reform the CSM NDA?
A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom.


On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.


Ok, Lets try a little game of lets be serious.
The CSM has had an up and down year, some members have done an amazing job (you know who you are) and some less so (likewise) what reforms do you envisage that would encourage the best of us to apply and give their all, without suffering discouragement, whilst eliminating the wasters and attention seekers and those who just want to ruin the game for the rest of us?

Answers on a postcard to.... Well here would be a good start.

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#16 - 2015-12-21 23:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ FunkyBacon
You will be first on my ballot this year sir!
...assuming CCP doesn't deep six the CSM at the end of 10.

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A Band Apart.
#17 - 2015-12-22 03:31:00 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?


I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items.
Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.

I am an individual that is part of something larger.

I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.

Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.


You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later.

I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate.


Ok, I'll bite.

Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative.

For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example.


Q What are your reforms?
A Uhhh

Q How would you reform the CSM NDA?
A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom.


On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.


Why do you feel the need to "bite" are you once again labeling me a troll simply because I don't swallow your entire campaign without questions and criticism?

Also assuming everyone will immediately know what you mean when you say things is poor form, sadly nobody has Mind Reading trained to V so we need to have things explained to us and reforming the CSM is something that can happen any number of ways so it's not at all assumed prior knowledge.

I'm looking for specific information on how you plan to overhaul the CSM based on your understanding of how the CSM works, you seem to be assuming that everyone can guess your plan and are instead relying on pretty vague statements. You said it's difficult for you to explain yet you're running your entire campaign on it, a CSM member needs to be articulate and specific and so far you've shown neither.
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2015-12-22 07:45:41 UTC
Xenuria wrote:


(snip)

On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.


Given that, how can you continue to play in an alliance that includes induviduals such as Digi? Or is doxxing only bad when it happens to you?

(^;

#19 - 2015-12-22 13:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Lydia vanPersie wrote:
Xenuria wrote:


(snip)

On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.


Given that, how can you continue to play in an alliance that includes induviduals such as Digi? Or is doxxing only bad when it happens to you?


I do not see my presence in the alliance as an endorsement of what some members of the alliance say or do.
If and when somebody does something that I personally feel is inappropriate or messed up I let it be known. Do to how I am, I don't believe in showing favor to anybody because of rank, social status, influence etc. If a director in the imperium did something really messed up or creepy I would put them on blast.

I feel it's not only possible for people who don't agree on everything to work together, I believe it's essential to the survival of this game.


epicurus ataraxia wrote:


Ok, Lets try a little game of lets be serious.
The CSM has had an up and down year, some members have done an amazing job (you know who you are) and some less so (likewise) what reforms do you envisage that would encourage the best of us to apply and give their all, without suffering discouragement, whilst eliminating the wasters and attention seekers and those who just want to ruin the game for the rest of us?

Answers on a postcard to.... Well here would be a good start.

I think vigilance and oversight are the hallmarks of a good participation system. Obviously there are some aspects of how participation is measured that I am not privy to, that said I have some ideas.

When I work on anything as a behavioral consultant or even in security work, I always like to document the time I spend and what I spend it doing. Punch in - Punch out, is simply not sufficient for something like this so I would concoct a To-Doo system that allowed members of the CSM to claim or assign themselves to tasks they felt themselves best suited to.

Id Est: CCP has a bunch of gameplay changes/proposals that need to be looked over half are wormholes and the other half have to do with PVE in HS. Member A of the CSM can say "I got the wormhole stuff unless anybody else want's it or wishes to collaborate with me on it." Member E says "I am not that well versed in WH stuff but I know alot about how HS mission runners think, I'll take that part". With a system like this is becomes painfully obvious via data and trends who is just not doing anything.

Lauresh Thellere wrote:


Why do you feel the need to "bite" are you once again labeling me a troll simply because I don't swallow your entire campaign without questions and criticism?

Also assuming everyone will immediately know what you mean when you say things is poor form, sadly nobody has Mind Reading trained to V so we need to have things explained to us and reforming the CSM is something that can happen any number of ways so it's not at all assumed prior knowledge.

I'm looking for specific information on how you plan to overhaul the CSM based on your understanding of how the CSM works, you seem to be assuming that everyone can guess your plan and are instead relying on pretty vague statements. You said it's difficult for you to explain yet you're running your entire campaign on it, a CSM member needs to be articulate and specific and so far you've shown neither.


You seem like you want to ask a question. Unfortunately I am unable to find one other than why I should feel the need to respond to you. Honestly, based on your previous history of posting in my threads; I don't.
#20 - 2015-12-22 19:36:35 UTC
Just cause, you have my vote!

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