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What to do when omega.

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Caldari State
#1 - 2017-01-08 14:16:33 UTC
So I know that at some point I'll probably buy omega. And when I do a virtual 30 day countdown begins, where I need to do everything I can to try and earn money to plex or as that probably won't happen at least to acquire a lot of money before I'm back to basics. So what should I do as not to waste time, and how much money should I start off with before I become Omega, so that everything is efficiently used?
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-01-08 14:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Im aiming for wormhole exploration.

Getting good at ship manouvering and probe scanning.
Also learn making good bookmarks in space, use d-scan
and maybe some 3rd party apps/sites.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

#3 - 2017-01-08 15:26:49 UTC
When I log in, I check my industry and see that all 5 research slots are at least being used. Then I look at my PI.

I'm a wormholer so the next thing is checking out Tripwire. New static? Sweet. If there's any sites in my C1 I'll knock them down first.

Then I probe my highsec system. Usually I probe it's whole constellation, taking notes of any wormholes that are full of sites. I'll ask in corp chat and try to get a fleet of there's a C2 or C3 full. I'll try to get an escalation from highsec anoms too as I'm probing. All this while looking over my shoulder and we will take the PvP if we can find it.

That's generally what a day in the life looks like. The isk is secondary. With as much as I make, I feel like a PLEX is still very expensive. I wouldn't enjoy Eve if I had a 1b ISK demon over my head month to month. But to each their own. Smile

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Caldari State
#4 - 2017-01-08 15:28:40 UTC
Most importantly, train and train again.

Im still making stupid mistakes that should come naturally.
-Forgetting to repair ship.
-Forgetting to fill up ammo.
-Forgetting items in ship or station.
-Forgetting important fittings.
-Forgetting to turn on fittings in battle.
-Lost in Overview, local, d-scan et.c.

Just overall stupid unnecessary hickups that
would be devastating anywhere else but missions
and in hi-sec.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

#5 - 2017-01-08 15:32:13 UTC
You're treating a game like a job.

Ways to make ISK:

1. Slow and steady: mining, missions, high-sec exploration, planetary industry. These start at about 3 mil / hr and top off at about 10-20 if you have the Omega skills for the higher end ships. Null-sec ratting, anomalies - 30-100m / hr is possible.

2. Do you feel lucky: exploration (low, null, wormhole), scamming, corp theft, suicide ganking. You could go weeks with nothing, and then hit the motherlode and be set for life.

3. It takes money to make money: trading, daytrading in Jita, some T2 manufacturing / invention. These require knowledge of the game (what ships and modules are popular), as well as starting capital (approx. 100m is a good starter sum, profit is typically 1% - 10%, can be more if you get lucky or prescient about patch notes).

For the sake of the in-game economy, which is very important to the health and popularity of the game, CCP has it set up so it takes effort to get anything big. Newbies, and especially alphas, won't have access to the ships and modules required. Solo players won't have access to the richer null space.

And grinding enough ISK to make a PLEX / month is very difficult, because they don't want you to do it; you're looking at working the game like a job 6-8 hours / day for 30 days, to get the equivalent of $15 total payout.
#6 - 2017-01-08 15:40:02 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Most importantly, train and train again.

Im still making stupid mistakes that should come naturally.
-Forgetting to repair ship.
-Forgetting to fill up ammo.
-Forgetting items in ship or station.
-Forgetting important fittings.
-Forgetting to turn on fittings in battle.
-Lost in Overview, local, d-scan et.c.

Just overall stupid unnecessary hickups that
would be devastating anywhere else but missions
and in hi-sec.



Today i began to enjoy your posts and see you in a whole new light. If there's anything related to wormhole exploration / combat in general i can help out with don't be afraid to get in touch. It's really good to see you embracing the depth of EvE.
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-01-08 15:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Memphis Baas wrote:
You're treating a game like a job.

you're looking at working the game like a job 6-8 hours / day for 30 days, to get the equivalent of $15 total payout.



Thare was a great post in Armored Warfare about grinding through "cancer".

A sought after module could only be achieved by playing artillery. So after
some calculation a player found out that playing a tank he liked and then
converting the skillpoints to desired module using ingame gold (bought
for real money) was better.
He would rather pay money than play artillery for 16 cents an hour.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

#8 - 2017-01-08 17:57:50 UTC
I don't know how accessible incursions are to alpha clones, but such an activity can yield around 130 million isk per hour. For an omega, it takes about 20 days to train a basic fitting from a day 1 clone. Incurious are incredibly easy activities that require little effort, but a rather large investment. An incursion battleship can cost around 200 mill or more, but while making more than 30 million every 15 minutes, it pays for itself in no time.

Contact me for any further questions.

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#9 - 2017-01-08 18:26:09 UTC
Obviously everyone is different, so the following is based mainly how I would feel if trying to actively PLEX. It may or may not be useful to your situation:

Trying to actively PLEX is a short trip to burnout. It turns the game from a game to a grind, leaving little time left to actually enjoy it. So the best forms of income to PLEX with; and still enjoy the game, are passive income sources. Ones that generate income/saleable resources even while you are offline.

For an individual player, the most accessible passive income source is planetary interaction. You can generate resources 24/7 and then sell them on the market, leaving you time to actually have fun.

With each account having 3 character slots, it's possible to train all three slots for near max PI in a short period of time (less than 1 month training per character) and then generate income from all three.

In terms of amounts of ISK from PI, I've read anywhere from 1-3 Billion a month from one account.

I do PI about as passively as possible and generate about 400-500 million per character each month.

Not something you can setup to PLEX with in just one month, but you can certainly get part way there with just 1 character and then grind the rest if you can stand the job nature of that.
#10 - 2017-01-08 18:27:51 UTC
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:
And when I do a virtual 30 day countdown begins, where I need to do everything I can to try and earn money to plex or as that probably won't happen at least to acquire a lot of money before I'm back to basics.


Oh wow, that's an awesome way to make sure you just absolutely loathe playing the game. Shocked

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#11 - 2017-01-08 18:41:38 UTC
Don't concern yourself with trying to make a PLEX yet. You will likely just make the game a very low-paying job rather than fun for you. Forget about isk, it will come.

Pick something that seems interesting to you, go Omega, and try it. If you are interested in something like fleet pvp, no you are not going to be 420noscopeyolopwnmastauberkilla immediately. You will start by being a tackle frigate or scout or some such. If something like trading interests you, you will not start as daddywarbuckstycooncanbuyislands, you will look up possible micro-trades on evecentral.org tradefinder and do trades in a frigate for 100k isk, not millions. Same with any area.

Try things. Fun over isk. Jump in.



Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-01-08 19:33:36 UTC
Everybody wants to PLEX... believe me, it's a big psychological difference if you must make 1B per months to play Omega or you just do it for fun because you can, and spend it on ingame stuff. If you can afford, pay the subscription ...

I'm my own NPC alt.

Caldari State
#13 - 2017-01-08 21:34:21 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:
And when I do a virtual 30 day countdown begins, where I need to do everything I can to try and earn money to plex or as that probably won't happen at least to acquire a lot of money before I'm back to basics.


Oh wow, that's an awesome way to make sure you just absolutely loathe playing the game. Shocked



Your right there, and everyone else who commented. Guess I should just enjoy myself really. Thanks for that. I shouldn't be hassling myself about virtual money that means nothing.


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Caldari State
#14 - 2017-01-08 21:35:36 UTC
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:


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It looked better when I was writing it...
Solitaire.
#15 - 2017-01-08 22:48:14 UTC
I'd recommend looking up pi and watching tutorials on it day one.
Even with just one account in a few days you can have a 4-5 planets and pretty much take it all to 3-4 and have decent colonies.
I started late and ran our of time but when set up it's passive income that supplements anything you do. If you put a little time in every few days it just prints money.
It might not be huge like the pros who have multiple accounts and characters doing it but every little bit helps and it's gonna make a mil an hour maybe for small scale stuff. 1m an hour isn't huge no. But that's 24m a day and 720m a month for 30days of basically jist flying out to move some stuff from one planet and making sure it's all running around the clock. then you can play normally and in theory that cuts a billion you need from a plea down to 200-300m in ideal conditions.
If you do more characters even better.
I can't even set up my p2-p3 planet right now and i can't export it but I have probably 30-40m sitting on a planet in p1. For a few days of just running the most basic stuff. That's not bad considering im not even currently omega. If i hadn't taken so long to set it up I could have had some p3 running right now and when it ran out it would sit until I could omega and export it.
Caldari State
#16 - 2017-01-08 22:59:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:


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It looked better when I was writing it...


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If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-01-09 07:20:32 UTC
It depends on what you want to do in the end. Is it plexing your account or do you have some greater goal in mind?

PI is a nice passive income, exploration is not even dependent on being Omega. Mining is slow and steady but if they feel like farmville, online casino, and boredom incarnate, respectively then there is no point in planning to do them. I see a lot of players trying to reach the Nirvana of 'free game' and are willing to sacrifice all fun of play to get there.

Find what you like, if you can do it as an Alpha? Then go ahead and do so. If you need Omega and you actually DO enjoy doing it then you won't begrudge CCP getting a bit of money for the product they help provide (secret is, WE are the content more than anything coded).

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Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-01-09 07:50:28 UTC
BigBoss Sanchez wrote:
So I know that at some point I'll probably buy omega. And when I do a virtual 30 day countdown begins, where I need to do everything I can to try and earn money to plex


I tried that once. Not Eve, another game that had a Plex-like mechanic, and after two months of doing that I hated the game so much I quit permanently (and it had been one I'd enjoyed before that attempt)
Every day I had to log in to make a specific amount, whether I felt like playing it or not, every action in game was measured against the 'does this make me enough money', etc.
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2017-01-09 19:49:11 UTC
I've seen a number of people in Rookie Help who appear to have the idea that PLEX is the only way to become Omega and will go off and buy a PLEX with real money, not to sell it but to activate it for a month of Omega when they could save money by simply subscribing for $15, or better yet taking advantage of the 3/6 month current offers for Alphas which are $10/month or even a year at $99 which gets your Omega subscription down to $8.25.

I find it hard to imagine that a billion ISK will ever be worth less than $8 to me.

I know the lure of "free" subscription draws people in to try EVE, but they're going to be disappointed when they find out the amount of work involved, or worse they're going to actually try to do it and quit in exhaustion after a few weeks.

Even selling PLEX for ISK is mostly a bad idea for beginners as they really don't need a billion ISK to get started and (IMHO) it rather cheapens the experience and makes it a lot less rewarding in the beginning.
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2017-01-10 04:29:27 UTC
If your whole reason in playing this game is to plex your account you are on the fast track to boredom which will eventually lead you to quitting the game.

If you have the financial resources you should pay a subscription & use whatever ISK you earn to have fun with (whatever you chose to do).

It took me several years of paying subs before I got to the stage of plexing my accounts (with activities that require minimal effort) leaving sufficient ISK as well to cover ship losses etc. Occasionally the game felt a bit of a grind but I never let it get to the point where it felt like a second job.

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