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FREEPORT EXPLOIT

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Caldari State
#1 - 2017-02-14 17:53:43 UTC
Ladies and Gents

Why freeport can be instantly changed to NO freeport? Good question! Aparently there is no answers to it atm and CCP turns a blind eye to Trillions (and i mean ttrillions) of isk lost by players to this exploit to this day.

Explanation
As cyno goes up to a freeport (usualy that would be stationless systems) hunter alts apply it to a NON freeport and anything jumps in it has no tether. Then its tackled by 24/7 camper tengus/proteus or whatever eventually BO jumps in and starts bumping then capitals to kill.

I have counted 50 citadels in the regions of Metropolis, Heimatar, The forge in general hunter freeports has only 1 player in its corp. valasis1 in this case but there are tons of others.

The organiser : Sinshisko Van Raynar

PROOF (you can convo the victims in game and ask how it happened if its hard to believe)

https://zkillboard.com/related/30000199/201611041100/
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003446/201701262300/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59517899/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59923615/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59894394/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59298164/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60022646/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58262371/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60017293/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60016894/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60010130/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59895766/

And i could sit there and copy it all day long its tons and tons of this kind of kills.

Im not sure why victims arent complaining and asking for reimburst because as it looks from where i sit it is a clrear take an unfair advantage of fail game mechanics. And laundry billions of isk from players every day.

This could be sorted with 1 click by profile used by citadels application 1-24hrs delay nad thats all.

Give me your toughts.
#2 - 2017-02-14 17:59:07 UTC
It's pretty funny though, right?

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...

#3 - 2017-02-14 18:45:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Krin Dessat
You posted the exact same thing in GD

Here is a repeat of my response:

This is not an exploit - it is a feature

Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators


EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels

Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it

Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-02-14 18:53:39 UTC
I would like it better if the citadel was actually killing the caps. Can you fit tackle on a citadel?

Honestly, this could be the new battle badger. I now need a citadel.

Best feature in ages!
#5 - 2017-02-14 18:57:38 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I would like it better if the citadel was actually killing the caps. Can you fit tackle on a citadel?

Honestly, this could be the new battle badger. I now need a citadel.

Best feature in ages!

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Circle-Of-Two
#6 - 2017-02-14 19:37:35 UTC
Something something eve is not safe. Use other players structures at your own risk

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#7 - 2017-02-14 21:01:27 UTC
Disposable Chick wrote:
Ladies and Gents

Why freeport can be instantly changed to NO freeport? Good question! Aparently there is no answers to it atm and CCP turns a blind eye to Trillions (and i mean ttrillions) of isk lost by players to this exploit to this day.

Explanation
As cyno goes up to a freeport (usualy that would be stationless systems) hunter alts apply it to a NON freeport and anything jumps in it has no tether. Then its tackled by 24/7 camper tengus/proteus or whatever eventually BO jumps in and starts bumping then capitals to kill.

I have counted 50 citadels in the regions of Metropolis, Heimatar, The forge in general hunter freeports has only 1 player in its corp. valasis1 in this case but there are tons of others.

The organiser : Sinshisko Van Raynar

PROOF (you can convo the victims in game and ask how it happened if its hard to believe)

https://zkillboard.com/related/30000199/201611041100/
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003446/201701262300/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59517899/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59923615/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59894394/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59298164/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60022646/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58262371/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60017293/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60016894/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60010130/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59895766/

And i could sit there and copy it all day long its tons and tons of this kind of kills.

Im not sure why victims arent complaining and asking for reimburst because as it looks from where i sit it is a clrear take an unfair advantage of fail game mechanics. And laundry billions of isk from players every day.

This could be sorted with 1 click by profile used by citadels application 1-24hrs delay nad thats all.

Give me your toughts.


Ok, I am trying to catch up on what has changed in the last few years, but let me piece this together and if I am wrong someone please correct me:

Freeport is a state of an Outpost when it is in contention. This is a fixed timer and an icon.
Outposts do not have tethers.
Outposts could only be put up in sov controlled null sec.
Many (if not all) of these 'exploited' killmails are in low-sec space.
At the time I am posting this there are a total of nine Freeports in EVE.

Could it be that the issue here is that some enterprising people are just changing the name of an Upwell structure (not an Outpost, different mechanic) to say 'Freeport' and people are not paying attention and falling for the gag? If so, that is in no way an exploit, it would just be people not understanding how the game works.

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Circle-Of-Two
#8 - 2017-02-14 21:19:03 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
Disposable Chick wrote:
Ladies and Gents

Why freeport can be instantly changed to NO freeport? Good question! Aparently there is no answers to it atm and CCP turns a blind eye to Trillions (and i mean ttrillions) of isk lost by players to this exploit to this day.

Explanation
As cyno goes up to a freeport (usualy that would be stationless systems) hunter alts apply it to a NON freeport and anything jumps in it has no tether. Then its tackled by 24/7 camper tengus/proteus or whatever eventually BO jumps in and starts bumping then capitals to kill.

I have counted 50 citadels in the regions of Metropolis, Heimatar, The forge in general hunter freeports has only 1 player in its corp. valasis1 in this case but there are tons of others.

The organiser : Sinshisko Van Raynar

PROOF (you can convo the victims in game and ask how it happened if its hard to believe)

https://zkillboard.com/related/30000199/201611041100/
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003446/201701262300/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59517899/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59923615/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59894394/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59298164/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60022646/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58262371/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60017293/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60016894/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60010130/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59895766/

And i could sit there and copy it all day long its tons and tons of this kind of kills.

Im not sure why victims arent complaining and asking for reimburst because as it looks from where i sit it is a clrear take an unfair advantage of fail game mechanics. And laundry billions of isk from players every day.

This could be sorted with 1 click by profile used by citadels application 1-24hrs delay nad thats all.

Give me your toughts.


Ok, I am trying to catch up on what has changed in the last few years, but let me piece this together and if I am wrong someone please correct me:

Freeport is a state of an Outpost when it is in contention. This is a fixed timer and an icon.
Outposts do not have tethers.
Outposts could only be put up in sov controlled null sec.
Many (if not all) of these 'exploited' killmails are in low-sec space.
At the time I am posting this there are a total of nine Freeports in EVE.

Could it be that the issue here is that some enterprising people are just changing the name of an Upwell structure (not an Outpost, different mechanic) to say 'Freeport' and people are not paying attention and falling for the gag? If so, that is in no way an exploit, it would just be people not understanding how the game works.

He is talking about citadels and they have an option to freeport you can freely toggle on and off. people light cyno and they toggle the freeport mode off so when the cap or whatever comes through to use the citadel it cant dock

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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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#9 - 2017-02-14 21:30:56 UTC
That is what I thought. Gate camp level 2 antics. Neat.

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Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-02-14 22:53:53 UTC
It's a tactic that let's you be devious and crafty in order to get kills or some other gain.

Sounds like working as intended. Welcome to eve.
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-02-15 03:15:05 UTC
So, who are you trying to construct a case against? CCP for making this a possibility, the enities involved in the above noted killmails or the alleged organiser?
The Wraithguard.
#12 - 2017-04-25 20:45:42 UTC
The lesson: Don't cyno on a structure if you aren't blue to the owners. Taking the lazy way out using a random citadel to save a few jumps is not the answer.
#13 - 2017-04-26 14:53:57 UTC
it's working as intended.

sure it is. the question is: should it work this way?

i mean we could get rid of many more timers! why not make war decs instant for example? probably balance reasons.

same thing can be asked here. personaly i think it should have at least a one hour timer. seems like a small oversight by ccp.

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Carnivorous Swarm
#14 - 2017-04-26 15:14:22 UTC
Baited on a free port
#15 - 2017-04-26 16:50:21 UTC
The structures are player owned, as such the owner can change the status of the structure at any time with regards to 3rd party docking.

Working as intended.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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#16 - 2017-04-26 21:35:27 UTC
Remember when drones set to passive attacked anybody shooting at an owned MTU? Or mobile depot?

sigh

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Circle-Of-Two
#17 - 2017-04-26 21:50:44 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Remember when drones set to passive attacked anybody shooting at an owned MTU? Or mobile depot?

sigh


Good times. Remember when shooting mobile micro jump units generated killrights?

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Amarr Empire
#18 - 2017-04-26 21:52:27 UTC
Krin Dessat wrote:
You posted the exact same thing in GD

Here is a repeat of my response:

This is not an exploit - it is a feature

Tip of the day: Do not trust citadels to remain open to you unless you know and trust the owners/operators


EDIT: I`ll also add that there is no such thing as a Freeport when it comes to citadels

Just because someone gave it the name Freeport does not make it so. They own the structure, they can do whatever they want with it, including spontaneously blocking access to it

Also, posting this here will not bring you sympathy

It's not a feature if you're trying to use a legitimate public courier contract to get someone to move something to your own freeport. Then it's just another "scam" contract.

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#19 - 2017-04-27 13:40:46 UTC
Working as intended...

Next shitpost pls

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#20 - 2017-04-27 15:21:25 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Working as intended...

Next shitpost pls

I hope that future stations practice this, could you imagine the dock manager.

" Hey Randall, look at this cheeky bastard, look at him with fancy painted Charon, I don't like the color.... Dock denied"

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