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Trilambda Feature Feedback - Suns, Hangars and Logos!

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C C P Alliance
#1 - 2017-03-30 14:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sledgehammer
Hi all,

With the recent deployment of our latest testing environment to Sisi we have included a revamp of all suns within New Eden as well as a change to the quality of lighting in Hangars. On top of that, we have introduced corp/alliance/executor logos to structures.

To better promote the changes to Suns, we have also changed the warp in-point for all types; from a near-polar position to a closer, equatorial position.

Suns will now cast secondary lighting system-wide, though this will attenuate with distance from the Sun and they also take advantage of our environment template system to create depth-fog and audio features to round off the near-Sun environment.

As for hangars, we have added a new lighting rig system for ships to better show off your shinies-in-station.

Structure logos are now present, inheriting the logo of the corp, the alliance and a representation of the CEO of the Executor corp of an alliance.

We're eager to hear your thoughts on these changes, from both an aesthetic and performance-related view.

Cheers!

Sledge.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

C C P Alliance
#2 - 2017-03-30 14:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sledgehammer
Known Issues:

  • Icons for most suns are missing.
  • Corp logo may reset to Alliance logo after server restart.
  • Low Shader/None Postprocessing settings will result in your entire ship inheriting a sun's colour.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

Badfellas Inc.
#3 - 2017-03-30 14:56:45 UTC
Not sure if it's one of your but as you've mentioned icons the engineering complex are the wrong way around (medium EC has the largest icon & the XL has the smallest)
#4 - 2017-03-30 14:59:52 UTC
The suns look amazing! I traveled about 15 jumps an about 10 of the models i ran into were unique. The pink ones are the most awesome! A question remains, tho, were there green stars? If yes, where can i find one?
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2017-03-30 15:01:51 UTC
It seems alliance logos are not copied over to sisi. All alliances just have the default stars picture. Could a few alliances have their logos copied over for testing purposes? :)
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2017-03-30 15:04:23 UTC
Vesan Terakol wrote:
The suns look amazing! I traveled about 15 jumps an about 10 of the models i ran into were unique. The pink ones are the most awesome! A question remains, tho, were there green stars? If yes, where can i find one?


No greens, I'm afraid!

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

C C P Alliance
#7 - 2017-03-30 15:04:59 UTC
Xynthiar wrote:
It seems alliance logos are not copied over to sisi. All alliances just have the default stars picture. Could a few alliances have their logos copied over for testing purposes? :)


Most if not all will have the default. I'll have a word and see if it's possible to mirror the imageserver.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

C C P Alliance
#8 - 2017-03-30 15:07:03 UTC
Xynthiar wrote:
It seems alliance logos are not copied over to sisi. All alliances just have the default stars picture. Could a few alliances have their logos copied over for testing purposes? :)


Its something we're currently working on as its creating a few issues when trying to test this feature. Its also the reason why you might see some Corp logos appear as the default Corp logo if said Corp is part of an alliance.

I'm still hammering out the bugs on this one, but please do fire a bug report in if you see anything you believe to be a bug.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

C C P Alliance
#9 - 2017-03-30 15:08:58 UTC
Rainus Max wrote:
Not sure if it's one of your but as you've mentioned icons the engineering complex are the wrong way around (medium EC has the largest icon & the XL has the smallest)


If it's not too much trouble could you submit a bug report from the client about that?

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

Badfellas Inc.
#10 - 2017-03-30 15:14:15 UTC
CCP Sledgehammer wrote:
Rainus Max wrote:
Not sure if it's one of your but as you've mentioned icons the engineering complex are the wrong way around (medium EC has the largest icon & the XL has the smallest)


If it's not too much trouble could you submit a bug report from the client about that?


I would but it seems to have been fixed whilst the server was down
The-Culture
#11 - 2017-03-30 15:16:12 UTC
Could you add suns to the right-click menu in space? There's asteroid belts, planets, stations, structures, stargates, but no sun.
The-Culture
#12 - 2017-03-30 15:28:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Soleil Fournier
Low post-processing makes the stars look really bad. They look pretty good in high, but I don't like how the high setting makes the rest of the game look (too bright & sterile). Hope you guys can make them look better in the low setting.

**Edit - A good example are white stars. In high post processing they're detailed. In low post processing they're just a pure white blob like we had before.


Not a fan of the new warp-ins. You pass the star then keep warping so it feels like you're travelling someplace other than the sun. Especially on the smaller ones. I liked the feel of the old warp-ins better.


*Edit - The small stars warp ins are quite far away from the stars themselves. Need to be much closer.
Badfellas Inc.
#13 - 2017-03-30 15:28:20 UTC
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Structure logos are now present, inheriting the logo of the corp, the alliance and a representation of the CEO of the Executor corp of an alliance.


Any reason its not the CEO of the corp holding the structure? I'd have thought most executor CEOs are just throw-away chars in throw away corps.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2017-03-30 15:32:40 UTC
Amazing work, these are so pretty! Thank you :)

C C P Alliance
#15 - 2017-03-30 15:51:10 UTC
Rainus Max wrote:
Quote:
Structure logos are now present, inheriting the logo of the corp, the alliance and a representation of the CEO of the Executor corp of an alliance.


Any reason its not the CEO of the corp holding the structure? I'd have thought most executor CEOs are just throw-away chars in throw away corps.


From the feedback we've received, we're currently looking at changing it to being the CEO of the corp that's holding the structure. These changes are being made as I type, so keep an eye out for the next SISI update.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

Caldari State
#16 - 2017-03-30 17:50:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nikki Canby
Why even have the face of the CEO to begin with (or any portrait for that matter)?

Here's some things to consider:

1) The structure is not the work of one individual, but usually the collective efforts of many members of the corp or alliance.

2) Many CEO's are placeholder toons who never log in.

3) A face on the Upwell structure looks tacky and doesn't fit with normal Eve atmosphere.

4) Everyone asked for Corp/Ally logos on these new structures (good work on this!). No one wanted portraits (same goes with seeing the player advertisements when docked).

5) CEO might not even want their face plastered publicly on these structures.

If this is going to be on tranquility, can you at least make a toggle so the structure owners can turn off the portrait option?

As always in Eve, we are more than just ourselves. CCP is always trying to promote community and working together and not playing solo and then they basically say "corp CEO's are the ones who get the credit". It's just wrong.
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2017-03-30 17:52:01 UTC
CCP Savior wrote:
From the feedback we've received, we're currently looking at changing it to being the CEO of the corp that's holding the structure.


This change has been made internally.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#18 - 2017-03-30 18:21:35 UTC
If you do a CEO overlay, having text with it would be cool. If it's just a portrait, new players might not know what it means.

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C C P Alliance
#19 - 2017-03-30 18:25:21 UTC
Nikki Canby wrote:
Why even have the face of the CEO to begin with (or any portrait for that matter)?


This is part of a larger question that we've been trying to work through of how we can find ways to highlight individuals as well as groups in the in-space experience, offering an individual a way to aspire to having a human presence in the game. We do have other concepts for this, but this feature was an opportunity to do something simple to serve that goal.

What it means to the corp's members is going to vary a lot from corp to corp. Many corps (including some with the strongest identities) have CEOs who are active players and whose personalities help define what makes the group work. Many corps, as you say, have CEOs who are essentially placeholders, and yes, they won't see as much value in it.

The earlier idea of using alliance executor corp CEOs was a first-pass implementation that was created to get the feature going, before we had a full discussion about where the value might be in having such a portrait on the structure. Player feedback on this mirrored our internal feedback and we were happy to tweak it to make it something a bit more meaningful.

These portraits are relatively small and are placed far less prominently than alliance and corp logos. They're there if you care about them and look for them, and if someone wants to highlight the CEO portrait in, say, a player-produced video, it should be easy to do so, but they don't dominate the look of the structure. If you're not looking for them, you're unlikely to find them too distracting.

The reason that we are not providing UI control over these features is that doing so would require back-end database and UI work that would necessarily involve another team, and would greatly increase the complexity and time to implement the feature.

I personally think that corps with CEOs with strong personalities and in-game identities will enjoy the detail, while corps with placeholder alt CEOs can probably find ways to be creative with their portraits that communicate a mood or something about their corporate personality.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2017-03-30 19:17:03 UTC
With respect to the sun rework:

Is this purely a cosmetic change? As you are doubtless aware it's possible on TQ to have a bookmark inside the sun that, when you warp to it ejects you at high velocity (sometimes after a little bit of movement). I cannot replicate current TQ behaviour on Sisi. The inside of the sun does look very pretty though.
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