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20b loan 3%/6% interest

#1 - 2017-05-04 17:39:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Survik Gaterau
Hello, i am looking for 20b loan. Collateral is optional, 3% interest per month is for collateralled loan, 6% for without collateral. Isk is planned to use for trade expand. Check Survik Industries contract history for public contract trades.

If filled with collateral i will use BPOs (Astrahus, capital ships, battleships, cap. parts etc) from my collection to cover it with using ENorn as 3rd party. Different interest levels come from simple fact that i love looking at my BPOs in inventory.

If i am online you can find me (or my alts) in ingame channel named "Survik Industries Public" (list of my alts in my bio)
#2 - 2017-05-04 23:18:52 UTC
would like pledge 20B


#3 - 2017-05-04 23:30:33 UTC
Hi Survik,

I would suggest putting more information into your post. Go into more detail as to what kind of trading you are looking to expand (Station, region, other, etc.). No one is expecting you to revel your trade secrets but saying you want to expand trade is very very broad for a 20 billion loan.

Also seeing how this appears to be your first loan, not counting your failed attempt a few months ago, normally uncollateralized interest payments tend to be at least 10% so you will probably want to increase that if you want any chance of an uncollateralized loan.

Overall it will be very hard to get an uncollateralized loan for 20 billion with no past history to base it on so if you do need/want the loan it will probably be collateralized unless someone is willing to take a large risk.

Based on a quick search I do believe you are active in blueprint trading/research unless you spent a lot of time to build a good back story for a scam in which case nice job. However, this doesn't help anyone determine if you would repay the loan so try to address that as you seemed to have completely skipped that. I would recommend you treat this as an actual business proposal and put the proper amount of work into it as currently all I get is you want 20 billion but that you don't care enough to put any true work into it so why should an investor trust you with their isk?

Good luck with it
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-05-04 23:45:43 UTC
Star Killer14 wrote:
not counting your failed attempt a few months ago

I would count that most distinctly.

My channel: "Signatures" -

#5 - 2017-05-05 04:25:20 UTC
Hi, thank you for replies.

My main income come from selling 10/20 BPOs. Despite i buy and sell BPOs on market too i didnt make as much money as with contract trading this way. Loan is planned to used to buy BPO collection from a player that is willing to sell them hell cheap if paid asap. Ive seen 3% interests in previous loans here on forum with collateral. I am willing to use collateral, so there is no risk at all. I double that interest as id prefer to keep my collection in one piece, but this isnt necessary for me. Just better.

Since contract history for (at least) corporations is broken and isnt showing all transactions i made a script to calculate transactions from corp. journal tab. Since 12th March i sold BPOs for 35b ISK. 25b isk came from player donation which is just sending isk from my alts that list BPOs under their personal contracts (however some isk came from my main too so this isnt 100% accurate number). Cant go before 12th March as journal history isnt going any deeper. HTML file contains formatted transactions per day. You can open it in any browser (Chrome, IE, Firefox, ...)

Wallet transaction

The reason why i dont have liquid isk is that i love collecting BPOs for my personal collection.
We trade things... I think
#6 - 2017-05-05 06:27:46 UTC
Mail sent
#7 - 2017-05-05 07:06:11 UTC
I'll fill this and enorm is good for third party pending a post confirming collateral.
Nornir Empire
#8 - 2017-05-05 17:46:35 UTC
Survik's contracted the collateral to me for 20b, so if the investor could send me the ISK and I'll accept the contract.
We trade things... I think
#9 - 2017-05-05 21:12:07 UTC
Sent 20B to eliz. Collateral is to be held by eliz and interest rate is 4%. Pleasure doing business
Nornir Empire
#10 - 2017-05-05 21:41:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Confirming that Axton Kashuken sent me the ISK and I've accepted Survik's contract. Survik, you can send the interest directly to Axton, then mail me when you want to pay the loan off and I'll contract your stuff back to you for the principle plus any remaining interest.
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