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PLEX after change:

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#1 - 2017-05-18 15:07:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Currently at 1.4-1.5bil.

Surprised?
#2 - 2017-05-18 15:23:14 UTC
Not at all. I have now 12500 (after conversio) that I bought before the change. And I have account PLEXed to the end of may 2020.

Future looks bright for me.
#3 - 2017-05-18 15:32:51 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Surprised?



Disappointed.
#4 - 2017-05-18 15:51:31 UTC
Nah, i'll just stop playing for 12 months, lets see what happens in 1 year.
if it's still more than 2.5mil i'll stop playing forever.

Evil
#5 - 2017-05-18 15:51:50 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Currently at 1.4-1.5bil.

Surprised?
Nope. Not at all.

Player run economy. Though CCP could do some slight manipulation as they have in the past by doing a legit sale instead of the cash grab scam they're offering right now.

Mr Epeen Cool

There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.  Congratulations, dumbass!

Night Council
#6 - 2017-05-18 15:57:22 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Currently at 1.4-1.5bil.

Surprised?


It irks me a little, but doesn't surprise me. The price of PLEX is like fuel. Ever rising in price.
ChaosTheory.
#7 - 2017-05-18 16:03:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.
#8 - 2017-05-18 16:14:22 UTC
I'm counting all my pennies but it's looking like I won't be able to afford to buy a PLEX to keep my PI going lol. I'm projecting I'll be around 1.3b in my wallet in 8 days when the time runs out.

I could probably subscribe again Smile

@lunettelulu7

Solitaire.
#9 - 2017-05-18 16:15:40 UTC
No I said this week's ago that prices would skyrocket.
Just wait for them to reach 4mil per Plex.

Theyre making it impossible for newer characters to Plex.
There should have been a 1b ceiling implemented to prevent this.
#10 - 2017-05-18 16:26:57 UTC
looking at the isk faucet graphs I'm not surprised at all, we have more isk than ever, and stuff is cheap so we don't have a lot to spend it on. Plex has been on a long upward trend, sure it drops every now and then but almost always finds a new peak. Nothing like a big market shakeup to drive it even higher.

Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.

as an established player the cost doesn't really bother me, I can make something like 200-300 mil an hour actively grinding, that said I'm making most of my isk semi passively trading/building stuff right now

selling officer BCUs! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6872141

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#11 - 2017-05-18 16:52:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.


Luxury? No.
But a necessity.
I dont expect plex to be cheap (when i say cheap i mean around 600 mil) but im not paying 1.5 bil even though i can afford way more than that.
Get off your high horse, he is tired let him rest.
Blades of Grass
#12 - 2017-05-18 17:03:38 UTC
Well, Plex are now sold by CCP by packs of 110/240/440 (with 0/20/60 more offered for the moment). A player who want to add 30 days in his account needs 500 of them. 440, it is less than before (1 Plex = 30 days) but for the same price.

So CCP stealthy raised the price, and the market is correcting itself. There isn't any "player driven market" in this situation, CCP is the responsible of that.

It was obvious it would be going up if the real price is going up too. Couldn't do anything else. It is a dangerous move for CCP, I doubt that an higher price in ISK won't "cost" some players.
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2017-05-18 17:03:44 UTC
Spc One wrote:
Nah, i'll just stop playing for 12 months, lets see what happens in 1 year.
if it's still more than 2.5mil i'll stop playing forever.

Evil


Can i haz you stuff? Just to watch over it for you, of course...
#14 - 2017-05-18 17:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.

All the crying?

One thread with five responses before you post your scathing indictment of the EVE player base. Out of how many hundreds of thousands of players?

Don't be such a drama queen.

Mr Epeen Cool

There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.  Congratulations, dumbass!

Evictus.
#15 - 2017-05-18 17:09:13 UTC
Numbers from Eve Central are interesting.
SELLING 2.89 M 5% / 3.22 M wavg / 3.00 M median (0.18 M units)
BUYING 2.85 M 5% / 2.51 M wavg / 2.67 M median (1.76 M units)

10 times as many PLEX sold to buy orders as purchased from sell orders and buy/sell spread is essentially 0

It would seem that competition between buyers is driving up the price!
ChaosTheory.
#16 - 2017-05-18 17:09:43 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.

All the crying?

One thread and with five responses before you post your scathing indictment of the EVE player base. Out of how many hundreds of thousands of players?

Don't be such a drama queen.

Mr Epeen Cool


You do know that there are other places than here right? Did I say "All the crying on the EVe General Discussion forum"? No, I said "all the crying", meaning just that, from multiple place/forums/ discord, teamspeak etc.

Dude, understand something, You don't like me and I sure as hell don't like your trolling butt so I expect some disagreement, but your ignorant nit picking of my posts isn't worthy of someone who claims to be an adult. At least try to get it right if you want to discuss something, and if you don't like what I'm saying (even after you do get it right), feel free to use the ignore function.
#17 - 2017-05-18 17:15:08 UTC
The bottom line is CCP's bottom line benefits the most Big smile

@lunettelulu7

ChaosTheory.
#18 - 2017-05-18 17:15:16 UTC
Don Pera Saissore wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm quite enjoying it even though it's making my in game expenses go up (it now costs 6 bil a month to plex my 4 accounts, 200 mil a day). I'm enjoying it because of all the crying that's coming from the entitled fools who don't understand that plex is a luxury and that no one (including CCP) owes anyone cheap plex.


Luxury? No.
But a necessity.
I dont expect plex to be cheap (when i say cheap i mean around 600 mil) but im not paying 1.5 bil even though i can afford way more than that.
Get off your high horse, he is tired let him rest.


Case in point. No one owes you a certain plex price. Plex is a way for people with enough in game wealth to trade that wealth to others (usually people who are time poor or who hate in game wealth generating activities) in a mutually beneficial way. It's a slick move by CCP to combat golf farmers.

But it's not some kind of space-constitutional right. I'm not on a high horse, I'm on the common sense (which is generally lacking from society these days) horse.
#19 - 2017-05-18 17:35:12 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Plex is a way for people with enough in game wealth to trade that wealth to others (usually people who are time poor or who hate in game wealth generating activities) in a mutually beneficial way.


PLEX for most is a goal; to play for free. At your level, sure you can play the wealth-trading game but for the vast majority of players, earning enough to PLEX your account is THE goal of EVE.

I'm borderline as to being able to PLEX my account but that's getting harder and harder as it's requiring more and more time to get the ISK together. I don't mind paying for game time but if the goal of PLEX'ing becomes unreachable with an acceptable time investment then EVE will have to be put aside.
ChaosTheory.
#20 - 2017-05-18 17:52:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Loki Yamaguchi wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Plex is a way for people with enough in game wealth to trade that wealth to others (usually people who are time poor or who hate in game wealth generating activities) in a mutually beneficial way.


PLEX for most is a goal; to play for free. At your level, sure you can play the wealth-trading game but for the vast majority of players, earning enough to PLEX your account is THE goal of EVE.

I'm borderline as to being able to PLEX my account but that's getting harder and harder as it's requiring more and more time to get the ISK together. I don't mind paying for game time but if the goal of PLEX'ing becomes unreachable with an acceptable time investment then EVE will have to be put aside.


If someone lets "getting enough isk to buy plex to keep getting enough isk to buy plex" be their goal, couldn't they just buy a real life treadmill and be just as happy (and lose weight)?

It's no one's fault if people get it wrong about what a thing is, but they should NOT expect some kind of magical intervention from the powers that be to help them keep that misunderstanding going.

The actual problem with plex is that plex was cheap enough that people could get it with just a few hours per month of PVE activities (which got them hooked on the idea that they could easily "play for free). Now that plex is approaching a more reasonable price level, the people who got hooked on cheap plex are reacting like cut off drug addicts.

This has happened with a lot of things in game, High sec lvl 5 missions, the original insane isk spewing incursions, 400 mil per hour FW missioning, Tracking Titan/Scimitar combined with the original frigless Forsaken Hubs in null sec that paid out 500+ bil per hour, high end wormhole farming that was even more insane till CCP nerfed them with Drifters etc etc. People get used to unbalanced advantages really quick and they always react strongly when you take them away. PLEX is actually just the latest examples.

One day this will also happen with skill injectors, and the withdrawals from that are going to be something to see.
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