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Louis's epic Overview Settings v1.1

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#1 Posted: 2012.04.01 23:03  |  Edited by: Louis deGuerre
Setting up the overview right is just too hard Ugh
So I decided to make default "correct" (quotes intended) overview settings available Lol

You can download it here.
It's an xml file compressed into a rar file. Any decent unzipper should be able to unpack it, otherwise download WinRAR

Copy this xml file into your C:\Users\username\Documents\EVE\Overview directory (location will vary by OS. If you can't find it, export your overview settings to a distinct file name like 'WTF_where_is_the_dir' and search your machine for that filename).
If there is no 'Overview' directory in \Documents\Eve just create it.

Then you can import this xml file into EVE by clicking the little triangle at the top left of your overview window and selecting import overview settings (this is also where you export them).

Now don't mess with it any more unless you know WTF you're doing P

What will you have ?
An overview with 5 tabs. In EVE you want to only see what you need to see at any time. Seeing more causes lag and makes your life harder, usually resulting in a little trip with the pod express.

  1. Default tab will have the select all filter for overview and bracket profile. If you can't find or see something select this tab.

  2. Travel tab will have the travel plan no ships filter for overview and travel all no ships for bracket profile. If you select this you will not see any ships in the overview or in space, just gates, planets, stations and the sun. The screen will show brackets for planets, asteroid belts, gates and stations. It should show moons, but it doesn't. This is a feature instead of a bug I believe.
  3. This is used for traveling or for making a quick exit when you're in trouble. Basically, it's your GTFO button.

  4. Battle tab will have the battle pve filter for overview and the battle all filter for bracket profile. If you select this you will only see hostiles and neutrals on your overview and in space. You will also see all ships and drones in space. In addition, you will see stargates, station, the sun and most other celestial objects in both.
  5. The battle pve filter is for missions and complexes. There are also a battle fw and battle pvp with and without npcs.
    In battle, you do NOT want to see friendlies on your overview as it doubles your lag and might easily cause friendly fire so these are never shown. If you're in a big battle you will want to turn all the brackets off beforehand. You can do this by selecting hide all brackets in the overview settings menu.

  6. Drones tab will will have the battle drones filter for overview and the battle drones filter for bracket profile. It will only show hostile and neutral drones in the overview and in space and nothing else.
  7. This is a separate tab as drones cause a huge amount of lag and often being able to kill the enemy's drones is the difference between winning or losing.

  8. General tab. Here you can use a filter of choice. A good choice would be the friendly ships filters which only shows friendly ships. But you can also use a salvage or mining filter for example.

General filter rules :

  1. Filters will usually show anything (stations, gates, sov structures) that will not clutter up the screen (like drones). This is for ease of navigation and maneuvering.
  2. The bracket all filters will usually show most other things as well to prevent accidental decloaking.
  3. Charge(s) (bombs and probes) will usually be shown.


Okay, after importing the standard settings, check all these tabs. They must correspond exactly with the pictures (click links for pictures). In the tabs where you can move stuff up and down the correct order is vital !

Appearance-Colortag

Appearance-Background

Appearance-EWAR

Columns

Ships

Overview Tabs

Misc

Always make sure that the right edge line of the last column of your overview is visible inside the overview grid so the EWAR icons will not be shown 'off screen'.

READ THE SUPER DUPER IMPORTANT INFO IN THE POST BELOW ! DO IT NOW !

Special note to Faction War players
There is a battle fw filter included but you will have to add the militia column yourself after importing. Take a look in Ye Olde Threade for some FW-related discussion.

Untested : After you import the overviews settings, you must go to each tab and manually select "stop showing all brackets". This is a "feature" of EVE.

DISCLAIMER :
If you get blown up using these settings no ship refund etc.
If you don't trust the settings get in a cloaky frig and try them out.
Modify at your own risk. Suggestion and feedback always welcome.
The best guide on this subject is Varius Arcturus' Overview Guide

Ye olde threade
#2 Posted: 2012.04.01 23:04  |  Edited by: Louis deGuerre
SUPER DUPER IMPORTANT INFO !

If you use my settings the background colour scheme works as follows :

RED : You SHOULD shoot them everywhere as they will be or already are shooting at you.
ORANGE : You CAN shoot them everywhere, but expect to be shot in return.
YELLOW : DO NOT SHOOT THEM IN HIGHSEC OR CONCORD WILL KILL YOU. Expect sentry gun agression when you shoot them in lowsec. Kill them if you can tough.

CHANGELOG

Current status : Settings have been updated for Retribution expansion dd. 16-12-2012

Major changes in the Crucible version :
- Every filter now has POS towers and Jump Bridges
- Lots more POS filters (scout, POS assault, etc)
- Minor tweaks
- Some filters merged and others added

Major changes in the Inferno version :
- Force fields gone in many fitlers
- completely new Mining filters
- Minor tweaks
- Appearance background is now identical with colortag
- Removed new state 'Pilot is an ally in one or more of your wars' from battle filters
- Replaced the images with new ones.

Major changes in the Retribution version :
- Crimewatch implemented in 'easy mode' setup
- Salvage drones added where needed
- FW NPCs are seperate category
- Minor tweaks
- Drone filters only drones and nothing else
- Battle filter split in pve and pvp
- Some filters merged and others added

Know defects :
Various filters will show sentry turrets unintended Fixed in Inferno !

Special thanks to Joe Starbreaker, Dex Timor, SerratedX, Aegyen See, Venna Lealis for feedback.
Special thanks to Spc One and Roidsterr for testing.

Know defects caused by CCP :
Since Incursion, it is not longer possible to make a blues-only filter without adding all 'no standing' people as well. So friendly ships and drones will show 'no standing' as well.
This totally blows for logistics people but I can't find a solution.
I submitted a bugreport (106977) about this dd. 2011.01.30. The defect is known but not fixed as far as I know.

Some categories are unknown what their function is like 'Satellites' and 'Test Orbitals'. Some filters will have them some won't as the mood takes me Blink
Bear
#3 Posted: 2012.04.02 00:39
Louis deGuerre wrote:
If you get blown up using these settings no ship refund etc.


I see what you're doing! Trying to catch us noobs out?
#4 Posted: 2012.04.02 23:06
Will have to give this a try. Overview settings seem like a dark and mysterious art.
Goonswarm Federation
#5 Posted: 2012.04.05 17:14
Good job! I will try them.
#6 Posted: 2012.04.07 23:00  |  Edited by: Pop Bear
Actually since you +1'd me, I admit I troll Big smile

taking notes btw...Roll
Minmatar Republic
#7 Posted: 2012.04.09 01:19
Thanks for this Louis !! Pirate
Unified Church of the Unobligated
#8 Posted: 2012.04.26 20:09
Has this been updated for the current version of the game? Once I have a nice looking, logical, and intuitive over view things will be a lot easier.
#9 Posted: 2012.04.26 22:42
Nate Nichols wrote:
Has this been updated for the current version of the game? Once I have a nice looking, logical, and intuitive over view things will be a lot easier.


Up to date up to last patch so should be fine. Glad you like it ! P
Unified Church of the Unobligated
#10 Posted: 2012.04.27 00:35
Which tab shows wrecks and containers? I'm mostly pve for now...
#11 Posted: 2012.04.27 09:07  |  Edited by: Louis deGuerre
Nate Nichols wrote:
Which tab shows wrecks and containers? I'm mostly pve for now...


If you set it up exactly as instructed, the 'general' tab. The 'default' tab will show everything. Any overview tab can show it if you assign the 'salvage' filter to it.
#12 Posted: 2012.05.07 10:00
So... it's very interesting material to see what can be achieved through messing with the overview setting, but I'll most likely end up making my own since there's too much settings for my taste and either has too much things showing or not enough. But very interesting material nontheless just to get your hands dirty and see how you did it :)

Now I stumbled upon a little bug or feature, with your settings. I suppose most people don't have friends in corps/alliances they're at war with, but if you set high standings to a friend and his corp/alliance is at war with yours, he won't show on the battle filters though blinking red in space. Interestingly, he will show up with a red icon and star in a chat channel despite high personnal standing or even high corp standing.
Guess most people would say I shouldn't set him blue in the first place, but it's not because I can pew them without concord showing that they're no longer friends otherwise... maybe a "OOC-friend-contact-whatever" setting missing from the game for those cool guys you meet around New-Eden despite the corp they belong to.
"haiku are easy,
But sometimes they don't make sense,
Refrigerator."
#13 Posted: 2012.05.07 10:51
Sin Pew wrote:
So... it's very interesting material to see what can be achieved through messing with the overview setting, but I'll most likely end up making my own since there's too much settings for my taste and either has too much things showing or not enough. But very interesting material nontheless just to get your hands dirty and see how you did it :)

Now I stumbled upon a little bug or feature, with your settings. I suppose most people don't have friends in corps/alliances they're at war with, but if you set high standings to a friend and his corp/alliance is at war with yours, he won't show on the battle filters though blinking red in space. Interestingly, he will show up with a red icon and star in a chat channel despite high personnal standing or even high corp standing.
Guess most people would say I shouldn't set him blue in the first place, but it's not because I can pew them without concord showing that they're no longer friends otherwise... maybe a "OOC-friend-contact-whatever" setting missing from the game for those cool guys you meet around New-Eden despite the corp they belong to.


Very interesting that there is a difference between the two filters. I'll have to do a little investigating in this and try to show friends on the overview filters if at war. Nothing better than shooting friends ! P

I encourage everyone to make their own setup. Most people who use my settings end up adapting them to their personal preference and I strongly recommend that.

Thanks for your feedback ! I'll look into this next week when back from vacation.
Caldari State
#14 Posted: 2012.05.07 11:36
Working Stiffs
#15 Posted: 2012.05.07 23:52  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
This looks interesting, though I miss the original UI Editor that had a lot more options:
http://highsecdropouts.com/overview/index.php?page=generator
RvB - RED Federation
#16 Posted: 2012.05.07 23:54
I must say, I will have to give this a try.

I have been using your skill guide very loosely and am enjoying it thus far.

Thanks.
Gallente Federation
#17 Posted: 2012.06.08 23:49
Has this been updated? I'll probably try using it anyway. :)
#18 Posted: 2012.06.09 00:51
Joseph Yee wrote:
Has this been updated? I'll probably try using it anyway. :)


I swear I'll get round to it this weekend Oops but it's fine the way it is now.
#19 Posted: 2012.06.09 22:55  |  Edited by: Louis deGuerre
It has been updated for Inferno release.

I recommend you either update with the latest version or adjust your overview settings because it seems that the Inferno release might cause undesirable behaviour due to the addition of a new state, namely 'Pilot is an ally in one or more of your wars'.

It seems this has been added to all of your filters checked.
So you will see allies in your old overview filters when fighting wars in highsec and might have a friendly fire (i.e. Concordokken !) accident. This is all unverified by the way, but I think I'm right.

Changes :
There's been the usual tweaking and fiddling so expect some suprises. Most non-POS filters will have lost the forcefield, new PI thingies have been added in the 'all' filters and PI filter.
I frowned and looked at CCP when I found out that Infrastructure Hub is now an Entity but Infrastructure Hubs is a Sovereignty Structure (herp derp Ugh). I Guess this is because they changed all the FW bunkers into hubs.

The mining filters have been entirely redone.

For obscure reasons there was an appearance difference in the colortag and the background. This has been equalized. Note that this a major change in overview behaviour !

Remember : All wartargets have a blinking background in the overview ! You can only shoot them legitimately in highsec if they blink !!! Otherwise Concord will come and kill you.

Possible problems :
As the filters are now, allies in wars will NOT show up in the overview battle tab. So beware if you live in 0.0 for example and your alliance is fighting a wardec with your neigbours, but also have an 'unofficial' war going with your neighbours !

Also remember that these settings are made from a 0.0 and highsec living pirate hunter/fleet fighter/carebear perspective. So if you want to be a lowsec pirate in a lowsec pirate corp you will have to change the settings so that 'outlaws' will not automatically count as targets for example. Those outlaws could be your corp mates in that case.

To get back to Sin Pew's question :
I haven't been able to actually test this but the reason why contacts with good standing that are in a corp/alliance/militia that you are at war with do not show up in the battle tab is that the states are considered to work as AND instead of OR conditions.
So the only way to let them show up is to also let ALL the contacts with good standing show up in the battle tab, even if you are not at war with them, which is of course exactly what we do not want.
I fully agree that it should be possible to do this but I don't think it can be done currently.
This all goes back to january 2011 when they decided to make a difference between contacts with neutral standing and people with no standing at all, which has added an extra (undesired) layer of complexity to the overview settings.

Disclaimer :
Due to difficulty in creating all possible test conditions, many things considering the filters have not been tested. There are many assumptions underlying this so don't use it right away with your faction-fit Machariel, be careful and of course please let me know about any problems or bugs so I can correct them.
Gallente Federation
#20 Posted: 2012.06.10 01:43  |  Edited by: Joseph Yee
WOO Thanks! Now to download! :)

Edit: Okay downloaded, loaded and it works! Not sure if it's got everything you wanted (I just wanted to make sure I installed it right before dinner. :) ) but it loads up properly. :)

Thanks again!
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