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  • Date of Birth: 2010-10-19 00:18
  • First Forum Visit: 2013-01-30 13:49
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Deranged FleX

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  • [WTB] Tengu Char - Low Budget 5/6bil in EVE Marketplace

    My Skill Sheet

  • WTS 9.6 MILL GALLENTE CHAR WITH FULL HG SLAVESET CEPT OMEGA in EVE Marketplace

    retracted

  • Sold Out in EVE Marketplace

    Sorcerror wrote:
    1 pls for char named Sorcess
    ty


    Sold the last one mate sorry...you got here before I could update.

  • Sold Out in EVE Marketplace

    1 left mates...

  • Sold Out in EVE Marketplace

    Sent from my alt

  • Sold Out in EVE Marketplace

    WTS 2 x 60 Day GTC 975m each

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    CCP Stillman wrote:
    Vincent Athena wrote:

    One part of the current policy that is missing (at least I hope its still part of policy) is removal of ill gotten ISK. Is that still being done?

    It absolutely is, and is done automatically in all cases where the amount can be determined by our backend system. It's rare that manual intervention is needed, but does happen.


    How many of those are false positives and end up being returned to the user after month(s) of review?

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    Deranged FleX wrote:
    virm pasuul wrote:
    Vincent Athena wrote:

    Oh most likely that's not what happened. What happened is he did RMT then tried to hide it with various transactions and character transfers. When CCP caught him he came here to the forums to whine about it and proclaim his innocence. Well, as CCP Sreegs was fond of saying: People who do bad things have been known to lie.


    Its my experience of online gaming that a significant portion of exploiters and cheaters like to spread fear uncertainty and doubt about the methods that companies use to defeat them. Exploiters like to introduce doubt within the larger player base that the company is acting fairly or transparently in order to undermine player confidence in the system. If this player confidence in the company's good faith can be undermined sufficiently then the player base starts calling the company out.


    That was not my intention nor is my concern based upon your "feelings". My concern is what is the security team doing to insure less or no false positives on the character bazaar. Thanks to the help of CCP after my post, I know it wasn't an issue with the security team. My concern here was related to their DevBlog. I don't think CCP acts unfair but I do know that sometimes there are false positives. There is a petition system to correct it, but it is a slow moving cog of guilty until logs prove you're innocent.

    I am here as a paying customer asking a question. My question was partially answered with an EveMail with CCP Peligro about my specific concerns. I am not happy waiting a month now and probably longer, but at least I have some answers on what took place. I am content to know this will be cleared up.


    Thanks to CCP, and I suspect maybe my questions, my accounts have been fixed and the 13billion isk returned. There are false positives and not everyone is an exploiter or cheating the system in Eve Online. The cogs of CCP ground slow in this case, but fair.

    However, my question still remains. What will CCP do in the future to prevent false positives?

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    virm pasuul wrote:
    Vincent Athena wrote:

    Oh most likely that's not what happened. What happened is he did RMT then tried to hide it with various transactions and character transfers. When CCP caught him he came here to the forums to whine about it and proclaim his innocence. Well, as CCP Sreegs was fond of saying: People who do bad things have been known to lie.


    Its my experience of online gaming that a significant portion of exploiters and cheaters like to spread fear uncertainty and doubt about the methods that companies use to defeat them. Exploiters like to introduce doubt within the larger player base that the company is acting fairly or transparently in order to undermine player confidence in the system. If this player confidence in the company's good faith can be undermined sufficiently then the player base starts calling the company out.


    That was not my intention nor is my concern based upon your "feelings". My concern is what is the security team doing to insure less or no false positives on the character bazaar. Thanks to the help of CCP after my post, I know it wasn't an issue with the security team. My concern here was related to their DevBlog. I don't think CCP acts unfair but I do know that sometimes there are false positives. There is a petition system to correct it, but it is a slow moving cog of guilty until logs prove you're innocent.

    I am here as a paying customer asking a question. My question was partially answered with an EveMail with CCP Peligro about my specific concerns. I am not happy waiting a month now and probably longer, but at least I have some answers on what took place. I am content to know this will be cleared up.

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    mynnna wrote:
    Deranged FleX wrote:
    What is your plan, CCP, on combating the FALSE positives you have on RMT transactions? Are you going to change you policies on how you do your investigations so you stop taking isk (banning I guess now) from innocent people. Especially the ones who buy characters from the bazaar who did the RMT transaction before being sold?

    This account along with ALL my accounts are -13Billion isk because of buying it on the forums correctly. What is your new plan to combat false positive and rectify your ineffectiveness to get it right the first time?


    Based on the lack of responsiveness it seems to be same as the old plan: Ignore it until or unless called out as loudly as possible in public, perhaps not even then.

    "We don't comment on individual cases" is understandable and expected but it does not or at least should not preclude them from commenting in a general sense. "We investigate all claims" is all well and good, except for the evidence to the contrary, and the willingness to leave people in the dark in the meantime.


    Thanks and I believe you are right. I left out information on petitions that were not answered (near a month) or closed as I believe I can't talk about it here. It's one thing to take someone's isk and another to ban especially when they have multiple false positives on RMT OR people are buying legal toons the prescribed way and getting hit with the RMT hammer. Their process must not be reading logs or whatever they have or they would see a character transfer took place.

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    virm pasuul wrote:
    Deranged FleX wrote:
    This account along with ALL my accounts are -13Billion isk because of buying it on the forums correctly.


    At some point didn't you think about stopping buying negative isk accounts?
    Once burnt twice shy and all that?


    It wasn't negative until a month later after I purchased it. Had a positive wallet.

  • Dev blog: Updates to Team Security and the ongoing war on botting in EVE Information Center

    What is your plan, CCP, on combating the FALSE positives you have on RMT transactions? Are you going to change you policies on how you do your investigations so you stop taking isk (banning I guess now) from innocent people. Especially the ones who buy characters from the bazaar who did the RMT transaction before being sold?

    This account along with ALL my accounts are -13Billion isk because of buying one account, Deranged Flex, on the forums your forums and doing everything correctly. What is your new plan to combat false positive and rectify your ineffectiveness to get it right the first time?

  • Hot drops and gate camps = lame pvp. in EVE Communication Center

    Did someone say hot drops?

  • Petition Time Length for CCP to respond? in EVE Communication Center

    Thanks gents, I never had one go that long and then again I only had one or two. Thanks mates!

  • Petition Time Length for CCP to respond? in EVE Communication Center

    Did a petition 10 days ago and not a peep. Is that normal for CCP?

  • Permanent Ban in EVE Communication Center

    Buying a character properly thru the Eve Online Forums that improperly gained 13 Billion Isk BEFORE you bought it will also means CCP will take it from you. Over a week on the petition and nothing. Thanks CCP for putting ALL my toons -13 Billion isk so I can't play.

  • Trebor Daehdoow for CSM8 - The Proven Performer - http://bit.ly/vote-trebor in Council of Stellar Management

    Thanks for taking the time to tell everyone about your times in the CMS. Thanks for the hard work and here's to another year at it!

  • [SOLD] WTS 7.7m SP Caldari BS Missile Toon (PvP / PvE) in EVE Marketplace

    ISK recieved and transfer initiated

  • [SOLD] WTS 7.7m SP Caldari BS Missile Toon (PvP / PvE) in EVE Marketplace

    Chief Tharkson wrote:
    2.4b B/O


    I'm accepting your offer, send ISK and Account Name via EVE Mail

  • [SOLD] WTS 7.7m SP Caldari BS Missile Toon (PvP / PvE) in EVE Marketplace

    Bump