Sivar Ahishatsu wrote: Zander Moreau wrote:
Same old ganker rhetoric
Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts. meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else. meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine out of a self-established mindset that somehow the miner decided to become your victim the moment they embarked in a mining ship and unlocked.!
This I feel is the crux of the dispute.
"Your freedom stops where someone else's freedom starts" is applicable in real life if your local courts/government agree, it is not applicable to the game as it is currently sold.
"meaning that the you do not have more right to what you want than anyone else" I am not disputing this.
"meaning that the unnamed miner has equal right to decide to go mine" absolutely agree.
"and has a right to be able to mine without you coming along and preventing him to mine" this does not exist in game
as the game is currently.
EVE Online, I'll quote again, "In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be. This is because EVE Online is essentially a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core." This is from page 15, of the EVE-Online New Pilot FAQ. Here is the link: https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf
The gameplay you advocate so passionately for, in the quoted post, does not exist in EVE Online currently. It may never exist. Any character in this game can at any time violence any other character......if the other character......is so situationally blind as to allow it.
Every player can take steps to pursue their desired type of gameplay, but must contend with the gameplay of every other player. Each player must decide for themself how they will contest each situation in which they find themselves. Will they be informed? React? Retaliate? Will they seek the counsel of others? Form groups for support? Or hide in the sand? But this game is a sand box, not a bottomless sand pit.
In EVE Online not only do you confront other players, but you confront your own character.