# 1 free Tier 1 filament for everyone? Seriously? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 7, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348 "2018-06-07T20:50:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Tuttomenui\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tuttomenui_ii/32/479440_2.png) [@Tuttomenui\_II](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tuttomenui_II)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/61 "2018-06-08T09:34:31Z")
I did a filament within the Dodixie star today. No where close to the collision model but well within the Visual model. Distance from star was reported by overview as 0. ---
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/62 "2018-06-08T09:51:42Z")
So far there have been something like 7300 ships killed in Abyssal Dead space. This does not count the people killed in known space after leaving that space. At the Reddit AMA cop employees said tier 5 had a 60% success rate and tier 4 had 90%. And there is a lot of Abyssal loot on the market, AND Trig ships are popping up on the killboard more frequently. All evidence point to a lot of people doing this content. In the 1st day there was more ships killed isk wise in Abyssal space than there have been destroyed FOBs I’m all the months qeve had that feature. I know a good few people dipping their toes in as well… I’m on the record as criticizing what cop does with pve. And this content isn’t perfect. But its IMO the best pve addition they have made since 2009. Some people are dead set on disliking it because its not “more missions”, but we can still remind ccp that most pve players seem to prefer missions and anoms (we do, even if most of us don’t want to admit it) while appreciating good new content additions like Abyssal deadspace. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/63 "2018-06-08T10:08:49Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > It might be that there are potentially multiple capsuleers in a system at the same time, but each in their own site. > > It would be great to know, but we don’t have any way to tell currently. I think this is the case. Here are two killmails 1 second apart in the same system: > **[Ishtar | Mareau Auscent | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70270737/)** > > Mareau Auscent (No Vacancies) lost their Ishtar in Unsfgrvaa (ADR04) Total Value: 747,381,811.76 ISK > **[Gila | Laroza | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70270736/)** > > Laroza (Don't Wake a sleeping bear) lost their Gila in Unsfgrvaa (ADR04) Total Value: 598,958,845.75 ISK I looked at the data I had [grabbed earlier](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eMCU8BU4NwenGdv7gk_k9gnFz_NHEmppUbxXAsz-ed4/edit?usp=sharing) and there are several hundred killmails in the same system less than a minute apart like the two above. It seems very likely to me that there can be multiple instances of the sites in a single Triglavian system and that they are just isolated from one another, which makes sense as there has never been any report of reaching a cap or getting some error message that the sites are full as far as I am aware. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/64 "2018-06-08T10:30:40Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Note that in that thread people asked him why he was using that as a solo boat when it is evidently better in gangs with a specific focus. That question is a very valid one, especially as the weapon ramps up its damage. That is a big clue!!! Anyway… The issue with the Vedmak is mostly its fitting space. In theory it could do a lot of things at once, but in reality it can’t due to low power grid. The other issue is the way the new weapon system works. In Chessurs thread he linked a damage over time sheet, which shows how much worse the Vedmak performs in terms of damage unless it stays on one target over several minutes. So the only cases where this would be helpful are super tight small gang vs small gang fights with logi or the Vedmak being used to kill capitals. I’ll have to check if it can do DPS + 100mn + decent tank, but from what I’ve seen so far I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Retainer\_of\_Souls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retainer_of_souls/32/249744_2.png) [@Retainer\_of\_Souls](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retainer_of_Souls)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/65 "2018-06-08T11:06:01Z")
Ey’up bud - we need a Yorkshire Corp 🙂 When the announce they are available to redeem for 30 days, does that mean once redeemed it doesn’t time expire? ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/66 "2018-06-08T11:15:10Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > from what I have seen are PvP players, not the PvE players. But that is just a small sample of people I have seen with losses to these sites **in my alliance**. So when you start going off on PvE players losing their stuff, think again, it is a incorrect sweeping generalization. Being in null sec PvP alliance like TIKLE makes your point be very valid for null. But I was talking about HIGH SEC PvE carebares. You still think it is an ’ incorrect sweeping generalization.’ ? ---
**Author:** ![Kannibal\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kannibal_kane/32/83992_2.png) [@Kannibal\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kannibal_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/67 "2018-06-08T12:48:13Z")
Selling 1 Tier 1 Filament. Dunno don’t care really. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/68 "2018-06-08T12:55:07Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > Being in null sec PvP alliance like TIKLE makes your point be very valid for null. But I was talking about HIGH SEC PvE carebares. You still think it is an ’ incorrect sweeping generalization.’ ? My bad, you did mention hisec in that post: > [@erg\_cz](#): > > They were grinding ISK for ages in high sec without losing a single ship, now it is time for them to return ISK to the market. Still I do think it’s good that they get out of their comfort zone with level 4 and level 5 sites ---
**Author:** ![Drigo\_Segvian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drigo_segvian/32/325541_2.png) [@Drigo\_Segvian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drigo_Segvian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/69 "2018-06-08T12:57:29Z")
The free giveaway enticed me to try it for the first time. Visuals are great The unknown was interesting The loot was not bad Fun factor was 7 of 10 - probably because it was fresh. Knowing you may lose ship and pod +1 Overall I enjoyed it. will do it again. It’s not all about rewards folks although making good is is great. It is a game so try doing things for the fun factor sometime. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/70 "2018-06-08T13:11:12Z")
@Yiole_Gionglao i dont get it whats your problem? its clear what this should be … everyone should try it at least 1 time … if you dont grind for data sites or buy from market … here we go … after a time you bring 1 filament … all good … good call CCP … would be a bad idea on day 1 JuuR ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/71 "2018-06-08T13:11:58Z")
Yeah fitting is difficult, but the main issue is the weapon system if using it for solo fights, some people suggested them as a good bet for killing Rorquals. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/72 "2018-06-08T15:22:46Z")
They are quite squishy ships tho fighting against carriers haw dreads or supers that could come to save the rorqual is a no no. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/73 "2018-06-08T15:37:10Z")
The Triglavian ships need a damage buff. I wonder if the damage worked in reverse (hit for full and ramped down for sustained hits) if it would work better? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/74 "2018-06-08T16:52:10Z")
So profits-did 4 tiers4 today took about 1 hour had to borrow/steal some faction mods off a corpie as I didn’t have them on hand while at same time giggling and promising I won’t blow up.He didn’t really believe me. Anyway came out of all 4 sites with about 150mil worth of loot or so didn’t have any issues inside as I was ready for anything. I set the abyssal junk aside and took my nyx alt through the anoms-decided to make a point and went ratting for an hour ticks were 106mil. 133 and 135 plus an escalation sold for 100mil.I can’t in all honesty say abyssal space lures me for the thrill anymore as for the isk not a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/75 "2018-06-08T16:57:34Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > The Triglavian ships need a damage buff. I wonder if the damage worked in reverse (hit for full and ramped down for sustained hits) if it would work better? Oh, it would. In the reverse case do you turn the auto-repeat off and pulse it for maximum effect. 🤩 To me the new ships / weapons sound pretty much like a classic heavy weapon system - a tank breaking weapon. But there is no point in expecting quick results from a weapon that is intentionally meant not to produce these. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/76 "2018-06-08T17:00:07Z")
Yeah, I should really get more sleep before suggesting ideas… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/77 "2018-06-08T18:44:29Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > They are quite squishy ships tho fighting against carriers haw dreads or supers that could come to save the rorqual is a no no. Well a number of times we had to leg it when the support came in, is that any different to what we have now? Seriously, when a ton of supers and Titans come in to save them, you have to leg it. > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > The Triglavian ships need a damage buff. I wonder if the damage worked in reverse (hit for full and ramped down for sustained hits) if it would work better? I read that and then saw this: > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Yeah, I should really get more sleep before suggesting ideas… Yep, and credit to you for admitting that. As it was said: > [@Whitehound](#): > > Oh, it would. In the reverse case do you turn the auto-repeat off and pulse it for maximum effect. And he gets it very well with this > [@Whitehound](#): > > To me the new ships / weapons sound pretty much like a classic heavy weapon system - a tank breaking weapon. > > But there is no point in expecting quick results from a weapon that is intentionally meant not to produce these. It is something different and interesting, it gives different options, but is definitely not a solo setup. ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/78 "2018-06-08T18:59:50Z")
I would be running abyssal sites right now if I didnt have 8 accounts to plex this week. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/79 "2018-06-08T19:22:48Z")
😃 CCP trolled all of you …HARD! ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348/80 "2018-06-08T19:31:52Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is something different and interesting, it gives different options, but is definitely not a solo setup. True, but I’m thinking there may be a niche where it will work as a kiter. It caters to a defensive tactic where you ignore your own dps and focus only on staying alive. You don’t fire at first at all, but save your cap for reps, for SBs, even rep your own drones or neut your target, and when you’re still able to hold on, then start firing. It’s not for ganking or face-melting, but for players with patience and endurance. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/1-free-tier-1-filament-for-everyone-seriously/81348.md?page=5)