# 100% Free ship/modules/fits/advice/coach/ and more for new players 😇 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256 "2020-09-07T02:12:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/41 "2020-09-07T07:18:12Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > If they got it ‘wrong’ for 17 years how did they last so long? > > Look around at all the games that are 17 years old that got it ‘right’ > > m could you please have a look my other thread and tell me what you think about it please? > [@New eve online game modes? (king of the hill) - (MOBA)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-online-game-modes-king-of-the-hill-moba/265274): > > These are just ideas that may or may not would make eve online more attractive to larger player-base. Maybe creating new servers with sightly different rules for example: king of the hill game mode with 100 player FFA where you spawn in randomly with maxed skills and you have to run around systems to find loot and take out everyone else with modules you find while you and everyone else forced closer and closer to each other by death circle closing on them. How about a MOBA game mode on differe… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/42 "2020-09-07T07:21:06Z")
I meant specifically with the new player experience. It’s objectively bad, and always has been. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/43 "2020-09-07T07:22:58Z")
Mike\_Azariah Can you tell me what is it takes/require to become CSM ? How did you become CSM ? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/44 "2020-09-07T07:27:39Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Oh one thing I was looking for in particular was steering them **away** from Venture mining. You _have_ to mention that. Don’t even allude to that activity being remotely viable. What’s wrong with venture mining as newbie though? That’s how I started in EVE (after finishing the tutorial, career agents and SOE epic arc). Pay was/is terrible, but it allowed me to get _some_ ISK to buy more ships and skillbooks, while reading everything about the game on my second screen. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/45 "2020-09-07T07:44:05Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What’s wrong with venture mining as newbie though? That’s how I started in EVE (after finishing the tutorial, career agents and SOE epic arc). > > Pay was/is terrible, but it allowed me to get _some_ ISK to buy more ships and skillbooks, while reading everything about the game on my second screen. Nothing wrong with the Venture. In fact mining is the easiest way to make quick isk as a new player as it require close to no skill to start mining right away. The isk/hour is really terrible and there are far better way to earn more isk/hour as a new player however the simplicity of mining is undoubtedly is a huge advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/46 "2020-09-07T08:13:47Z")
I was elected, as was the rest of the council. The elections are held in the spring. To vote you have to be an omega account. Players are the ones who vote and I am sure some will come in to tell you that it is a null sec power group as null sec players are more organized and manage to get quite a few reps on the council. I am the odd man out in that regard, not being in a player corp, alliance, and focusing my efforts on the new players and hisec, two groups notorious for not voting. But I am a stubborn old man and I somehow garnered enough votes to get a seat at the table (again, I have served on the council in other years) > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It’s objectively bad, and always has been. Ah, but is it getting better? I have been around a decade in the game . . . I make new accounts to see the changes to the new player experience and I have talked to the folks who played before I arrived. Is it still in need of a lot of work? Hell yes. But compared to what it once was it is better and I have hopes that CCP will continue to improve the New Player experience to the point that a decent number of people who try the game . . . stay, play, help the game grow. A lot of vets have a sort of survivor attitude of ‘if we had bad new player experiences and stayed then so should the new crop’ I disagree with that and think a lot of little pain points could be fixed. I am trying to make some of that happen. m ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/47 "2020-09-07T08:41:03Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Oh one thing I was looking for in particular was steering them **away** from Venture mining. You _have_ to mention that. Don’t even allude to that activity being remotely viable. > > What’s wrong with venture mining as newbie though? That’s how I started in EVE (after finishing the tutorial, career agents and SOE epic arc). > > Pay was/is terrible, but it allowed me to get _some_ ISK to buy more ships and skillbooks, while reading everything about the game on my second screen. It turns you into a reprobate, you lose your job, and then your girlfriend leaves you and takes the dog. Don’t ask me how I know this. Serious answer: it’s the gateway drug to EVE’s version of meth; basically, low-intelligence, bot-aspirant behavior. The income sucks, and it teaches you _nothing_ with regard to surviving in the EVE universe, and turns you into complacent livestock waiting to be harvested. > [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > It’s objectively bad, and always has been. > > Ah, but is it getting better? I have been around a decade in the game . . . I make new accounts to see the changes to the new player experience and I have talked to the folks who played before I arrived. Late 2004 here, mostly piracy. I teach new players how to be mercs/pirates, if they’re willing to listen. I also routinely make new characters and pretend to be a new player. My freshest one is 7 million SP, although I’m not super active right now due to an increased work load from COVID. You actually gave me a Rifter once, and I pretended to be impressed and asked you a few dumb noob questions. So I’ve seen the NPE iterations over the years. Something is _missing_. The current career agents are alright, but they seem superficial, kind of like going through a simulation for something, and when you do it for real, you get lost. I think that letting new players start out with a decent chunk of SP, with mid-tier skills trained up to cruisers, along with a few fully-fitted ships and saved fittings for them, could help a little bit. Come to think of it, when we started out with about a million SP, that was like the golden age for new players. I’d bump that to about 2, maybe 2.5 million, however. I know that you can get 1 million SP from a referral, but not everyone does this, and those who do don’t necessarily know how to allocate the points properly. You want players to start out with the ability to engage in low-level content right away, because today, you still need to do a bit of training just to get into high-sec anomalies. On top of that, a part of the tutorial should entail going out and completing some _actual_ content (e.g. probe out a real, non-tutorial combat site and complete it). Finally, there should be a live PvP element in the tutorial, noob versus noob. That’s my take on the NPE. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/48 "2020-09-07T19:59:12Z")
vod link removed as it doesnt belong here ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/49 "2020-09-18T02:08:54Z")
the offer is still active to any new player 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/50 "2020-09-18T02:52:49Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > the offer is still active to any new player 🙂 hey were is my stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Sharvas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_sharvas/32/407827_2.png) [@Eric\_Sharvas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Sharvas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/51 "2020-11-24T04:56:57Z")
That’s a great idea to help with the basics, how to set default orbit and keep at range and use it, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/52 "2020-11-24T07:27:04Z")
> [@New eve online game modes? (king of the hill) - (MOBA)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-online-game-modes-king-of-the-hill-moba/265274/1): > > …make eve online more attractive to larger player-base… > [@](#): > > …king of the hill game mode with 100 player FFA where you spawn in randomly with maxed skills… > [@](#): > > …you have to run around systems to find loot… > [@](#): > > …there is game called _Fortnite_ which started out as a co-op pve game and it was not very popular with players **until** they introduced a new king of the hill game-mode… > [@New eve online game modes? (king of the hill) - (MOBA)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-eve-online-game-modes-king-of-the-hill-moba/265274/1): > > Any thoughts on that? Yes: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/e/be0c5fd31925ccf090a68555deab544d35bf4308.jpeg) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/0/6096755208bfdcae2211d0c298fa52e068c8cd0b.jpeg) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/e/3e6c28c389bb828e959a4c94e6262150c120460c.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/2/320facc0214a09f891a51d31541e5a7d0ecf7dad.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/0/b061d448ba5c40f18038fd4b331b6e61c69d43f4.gif) > [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > Can you tell me what is it takes/require to become CSM ? [https://i.imgur.com/yDbGVv3.gif(image larger than 4 MB)](https://i.imgur.com/yDbGVv3.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/1/612c88a4cc7eb6d793d7bf4c535c98be3d1f600c.jpeg) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/f/8fb8b917059a372b0d560dfa2da3dafdf8d26f22.jpeg) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/d/fda26eb8ba386f24fe195026428c68850b4c365a.gif) @Katarina_Neeko You should absolutely stand for CSM! I look forward to seeing your CSM campaign thread! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/100-free-ship-modules-fits-advice-coach-and-more-for-new-players/265256/53 "2021-02-22T07:27:13Z")
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