# 10th Annual Venture Hunting Contest

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 6, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451 "2022-10-06T02:13:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/97 "2022-10-10T00:10:06Z")

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CCP will listen to the CSM, but I very much doubt that there is much, if anything, discussed down here which would initiate an ‘Eureka!’ moment in the Company’s deliberations.

The player suggestions which do get taken on board (and mentioned in the updates) seem to be useful but hardly strategically significant additions. Are any of your own suggestions among them, Lucas?

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> For the most part this forum is about ganking

Perhaps so, but that is not the fault of the gankers, who would be quite happy to discuss other elements pertaining to the World of Scallywaggery.

It is Lucas Kell who hones in laser-like upon a single issue, which was not the subject of the post to which he was responding.

If C&P is as you describe, then your own part in making it so seems rather obvious.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> gankers have pushed out most of the other regulars

Hm. When I started playing, this sub-forum was a place to exchange information, ideas, strategies, funny stories… It was _hot._

There’s no doubt that it’s now a pale shadow of what it was; but times change, and people with them. It was a tight-knit club; now they let all sorts of riff-raff in.

_sigh_

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/98 "2022-10-10T01:24:23Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> For the most part this forum is about ganking, as gankers have pushed out most of the other regulars. C&P in particular is almost exclusively about ganking.

After fifteen years of non-stop sandbox nerfs, this game has been reduced to nothing but mindless PvE grinding and ganking, so you can hardly blame people about discussing basically the sole remaining viable form of PvP. Wars: dead. Mercenary industry: dead (the “merc contracts” channel used to have 300 people in it before citadels went live, now it’s got 0). Baiting: hanging by a tendon as more and more PvE content becomes instanced. Low-sec: reduced to 3 systems that are gate-camped 24/7, and otherwise completely devoid of life.

What else are we supposed to talk about here?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/99 "2022-10-10T02:15:58Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> What else are we supposed to talk about here?

How amazing Lucas ideas are and validate his positions without question and with complete approval.

Common man. Get with the program.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/100 "2022-10-10T03:10:38Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> For the most part this forum is about ganking

Says the person who single handedly manages to turn every thread into a thread about ganking, even if it wasn’t in the first place, and post 739 posts riling against the subject long after everyone else is bored.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Enderas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/winston_enderas/32/416311_2.png) [@Winston\_Enderas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Winston_Enderas)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/101 "2022-10-10T05:26:14Z")

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If people just want to rail against ganking there’s always the [Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/8055). Here, we should be talking more about how inspired it is to offer bonuses for folks who get their kills with other industrial ships. That is the kind of thing that promotes the outside the box thinking that makes Eve awesome.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/102 "2022-10-10T09:01:45Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> the person who single handedly manages to turn every thread into a thread about ganking

There’s something else I’ve noticed. Thanks go to @Aiko_Danuja, whose [recent blogpost](https://www.james315.space/2022/10/04/hateless-blues/) enabled me to tie up some hitherto inexplicable loose ends about this character.

Be prepared for a shock.

In the Nerf Ganking Megathread we find this exchange (post 8933)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/9/169ee30a53a32dfdb1f76187f7fe8df258cb7953.png)

And this (snagged dialogue box 22 from the above-mentioned blogpost)  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/b/b/bbbae19e97a7c35f186d9b31fa1f1defd6dbaaa0.jpeg)

Can there be two entirely separate players using this phrase? There can.

Can there be two entirely separate rabidly anti-ganking players using this phrase?

Thoughts on a postcard…

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/103 "2022-10-10T09:26:36Z")

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I am not sure. The phrase is uncanny, but Lucas Kell is against:

- ~~Basement dwelling incels doing any kind of ganking~~
- ~~Basement dwelling incels doing any kind of _griefing_ – all ganking is griefing~~
- ~~Only ganking that isn’t done for profit~~
- ~~Only ganking that targets newbros~~
- ~~Only ganking that targets newbros and affects retention~~
- Only the griefing that comes with ganking newbros that affects retention\*

_\*Subject to further change on Lucas’ whims_

Whereas Hateless is against bumping an Orca of someone multiboxing 9+ accounts and is surely too busy hopping on TiS and parading around elsewhere than coming to the cesspool that is Eve Forums.

That said though, maybe Hateless told himself, before spinning up a forum alt:

“you do you boo”

🤔

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/104 "2022-10-10T09:46:04Z")

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Yes, perhaps LK represents what HateLesS _really_ thinks…?

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**Author:** ![Nita\_Kateri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nita_kateri/32/337203_2.png) [@Nita\_Kateri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nita_Kateri)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/105 "2022-10-10T10:00:46Z")

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Boys boys… You’re worse than old spinsters.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/106 "2022-10-10T11:29:31Z")

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Elderly unmarried women do not constitute a ‘type’. They are as delightfully individual and varied as the rest of womankind.

Seeking to undermine the opposition is a tactic well-known in the Forum - and well-used in all forms of debate.

If it generates matronizing and priggish comments such as your own, who can wonder that we continue, regardless?

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**Author:** ![Nita\_Kateri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nita_kateri/32/337203_2.png) [@Nita\_Kateri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nita_Kateri)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/107 "2022-10-10T11:54:37Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> Seeking to undermine the opposition is a tactic well-known in the Forum

I have no “opposition” on the forum. I’m just here to troll really, just having some free fun, like being Alpha in the game, a quick spur of action for a few SP every day and then it’s on to another game.  
I have the attention span of a vegetable.

> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> and well-used in all forms of debate

I stopped debating more than 20 years ago. I laugh more these days. It’s so funny to see people who thought they were so high & mighty end up getting shafted. It’s much more amusing than trying to reason with them.

> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> who can wonder that we continue, regardless?

I don’t get that sentence but no matter.  
Thanks for bringing smiles on my face.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/108 "2022-10-10T12:31:03Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> Yes, perhaps LK represents what HateLesS _really_ thinks…?

Wonder what he thinks about flooding CCP with Orca reimbursement requests due to gank losses, and partner status for producing 0 videos. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/109 "2022-10-10T14:11:27Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Lucas Kell

Why even use that phrase

# [You do you boo]

_“When a person wants to do something that will cause them to be judged but they do it anyway.”_

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/110 "2022-10-10T16:43:29Z")

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Can’t say I’ve ever heard that phrase before…had to google it.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/111 "2022-10-10T21:59:36Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> CCP will listen to the CSM, but I very much doubt that there is much, if anything, discussed down here which would initiate an ‘Eureka!’ moment in the Company’s deliberations.

No I have to disagree me and my little corp set in motion a change in the game (no nothing to do with ganking)

So you never know who’s watching and listening

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/112 "2022-10-10T22:23:01Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> me and my little corp set in motion a change in the game

I’m pleased that you have been able to enjoy yourselves and get noticed by CCP.

I did qualify my comment by using words like ‘doubt’, ‘much’ and ‘Eureka’, to indicate my caution.

Certain frequent anti-ganking posters, both in GD and C&P seem unable to emulate your success. Perhaps you could help them?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/113 "2022-10-10T22:37:00Z")

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I’m running a class very soon " How it get your post moved and locked in 5 easy steps"

Sign up for that and you get a free bonus class on " Tactics and procedures for agonising Pirate Princesses and where to find the non pvp button"

The T&P class is always fun thxs to safety

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**Author:** ![Nita\_Kateri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nita_kateri/32/337203_2.png) [@Nita\_Kateri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nita_Kateri)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/114 "2022-10-11T08:15:58Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Can’t say I’ve ever heard that phrase before…had to google it

It’s a slang phrase used by lowlives… Only in Amerika

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/115 "2022-10-11T10:40:40Z")

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Please don’t be upset, it will be okay! We can get through this together!

![sorry-Githany Red](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/0/3/8031ae0ca6db0ff42ae8c8eb42bcd9df82dc1342.jpeg)  
I am sorry Githany Red about your thread but I had my reasons and I take full responsability for what the future holds for my actions from the other day.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/10th-annual-venture-hunting-contest/379451/116 "2022-10-11T11:28:35Z")

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I think the forum chat bot picks up me and Aiko posting and it gets flagged of removal to the waste bin, sorry I mean C&P.

Maybe we should test it, have completely innocent conversation about ship fittings, like normal people.

Has Hawk stopped kill Orcas, if so time to hunt venture hunters

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