# 110M+ for office rental in NPC 0.0 for 6 months in a row. Are CCP trying to depopulate NPC 0.0? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 16, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066 "2021-04-16T13:00:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Julius\_Scipio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julius_scipio/32/260306_2.png) [@Julius\_Scipio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julius_Scipio)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/1 "2021-04-16T13:00:55Z")
My corp (not part of any alliance blob) has a couple of offices in NPC space - Great Wildlands and Stain for historical reasons. We have no structures and casual gameplay of about 8-10 hours a week. We do not have moons (all taken by the aforementioned alliance blobs) so little access to revenue. We have had office bills in the Thukker Mix offoce of M-M in Great Wildlands of over 100M for the last 6 months. There are 7 free offoces. Frankly Great Wildlands is a backwater with the occasional loony, few Russians and a tumbleweed. I can only assume CCP wants to depopulate NPC 0.0. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/2 "2021-04-16T13:04:09Z")
Hows the system index look? Half the time I use the “free office” trick, but its limited utility may not work for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/3 "2021-04-16T13:12:02Z")
The rental fees are based on office occupation. If all offices are taken, the rental fee goes up and up. That has always been the case and is actually a good system because it dries out dead corps’ wallets. If there are free office slots, the price should come down again over time. Not sure if it is on a weekly basis or month over month, though. 110M is not a lot. Jita has had office rental fees in the billions and some locations in Stain (back when I was there many years ago) had fees from 400M up. ---
**Author:** ![Julius\_Scipio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julius_scipio/32/260306_2.png) [@Julius\_Scipio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julius_Scipio)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/4 "2021-04-16T13:29:59Z")
Well Stain has corps “renting” moons. I see the point about dead corps. 0.0 is unattractive for most players anyway, for me not having an office is just another nail in the coffin. ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/5 "2021-04-16T14:11:25Z")
> [@Julius\_Scipio](#): > > for me not having an office is just another nail in the coffin Why not rent in Low or HiSec? My friend rents an office in HiSec for 30,000isk a month. I mean, do you _absolutely_ have to have your office in Null? Can’t you have your HQ in a nearby constellation that has Low/Hisec systems or are you so deep in Null that the travel would be a chore? I think if a corporation cannot afford a POS then it shouldn’t exist, just like the argument that if you can’t defend your POS you shouldn’t have one. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/6 "2021-04-16T16:50:54Z")
Whatever you say now does not matter. OP is pretty clear that he wants CCP to interject because other players made something more expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/7 "2021-04-16T17:30:02Z")
> [@Julius\_Scipio](#): > > I can only assume CCP wants to depopulate NPC 0.0. What do you think? No, my rent in Syndicate went from 60 Mil to 200 K, one of my stations in hisec, went from 20 Mil to 80 Mil. So no, CCP don’t wan’t to whatever you think. Jeezz, everyone see conspiracies everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/8 "2021-04-16T17:30:28Z")
Like _that_’s gonna happen 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/9 "2021-04-16T17:50:10Z")
> [@Julius\_Scipio](#): > > just another nail in the coffin In that case you should send me your stuff 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Julius\_Scipio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julius_scipio/32/260306_2.png) [@Julius\_Scipio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julius_Scipio)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/10 "2021-04-16T17:54:22Z")
I’m not worried Stain is getting a gate! Will make all the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/11 "2021-04-16T18:09:12Z")
Maybe CCP is specifically targeting him personally. 😉 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/12 "2021-04-16T18:33:05Z")
Oh, this kind of guy… ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/13 "2021-04-16T22:00:11Z")
Look I agree with OP. First, the rent is too damn high. Second, you can’t defend structures. Third, being one of the few dinosaurs who still knows how to set up and run a s%$%star pos, can’t because the fuel is outrageous. Basically nothing to do anymore, can’t mine, can’t pve officer rats with no belts, just cant have s^#% in EVE anymore. Only way a poor man can have a base anymore is orca with improved cloak then wander around bumming jetcan loads of missiles from kindly natives cause the rats dont drop enough loot to reprocess and make your own anymore which you can’t do anyway because ammo arrays are part of POSes which are run with fuel that costs so much you have to choose between your kids playing soccer and buying plex to trade 1/1 for fuel blocks. Damned had enough. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/14 "2021-04-16T22:31:13Z")
> [@Spruillo](#): > > Damned had enough Time to move to poor sec…high sec and join the rest of the space hobos like me. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/15 "2021-04-16T22:58:25Z")
You have two options. Move out or convince the other office owners that having a base in the same station as you is not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/16 "2021-04-17T04:56:40Z")
> [@Spruillo](#): > > Damned had enough. Sounds like you’re leaving. Can I have your stuff?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/17 "2021-04-17T07:33:11Z")
If your corp is not able to pay those kind of fees you won’t be able to handle an Orca loss. Just use corp contracts if you can’t afford the rent. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/110m-for-office-rental-in-npc-0-0-for-6-months-in-a-row-are-ccp-trying-to-depopulate-npc-0-0/306066/18 "2021-07-16T07:33:13Z")
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