# 200 M Skill Points, the Honest Way

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 30, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509 "2017-07-30T13:16:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Commander\_Spurty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_spurty/32/499672_2.png) [@Commander\_Spurty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Spurty)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/21 "2017-08-18T21:03:13Z")

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Considering to win, you **just need more people** , what does this have to do with buying skill points and in game ISK?

Pay to win in EVE is literally (please read) _“Paying to have friends who will log in and play with you”_

Congrats catching up with 200mill skill points the ‘honest way’, but after 30mill, it’s not skill points keeping you from being a good frigate pilot.

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**Author:** ![bbb2020](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bbb2020/32/498035_2.png) [@bbb2020](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bbb2020)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/22 "2017-11-05T10:21:46Z")

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Just realized; now I in here too. 200.252.something skill points, the old fashion way. Yeah!

Probably could have made it faster but those +5 implants really are to expensive and a burden for a character I actually use every day.

Funny thing is; after reaching the 200 mio milestone, somehow I just feel old o.0

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/23 "2017-11-05T11:03:16Z")

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Is this a joke? My indy alts are at 750m between them and have only ever EXTRACTED and I find it hard to believe that Dinny only has 200.

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**Author:** ![CMDR-HerpyDerpy\_Hurishima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmdr-herpyderpy_hurishima/32/25207_2.png) [@CMDR-HerpyDerpy\_Hurishima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CMDR-HerpyDerpy_Hurishima)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/24 "2017-11-05T12:58:44Z")

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i thought the max SP was around 440mill?

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/25 "2017-11-05T13:05:39Z")

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Ramona is special and so they get 750m for ALL their alts. They get skills up to L10 while us plebs only get L5 max.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/26 "2017-11-05T13:06:37Z")

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“My indy alts between them”

Their sp total, and theres not double digits of them.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/27 "2017-11-05T13:08:36Z")

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I AM special but not as special as Dinny and his “amazing” 200m SP that he got by having a character more than a couple years old.

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**Author:** ![Jasdemi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jasdemi/32/77975_2.png) [@Jasdemi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jasdemi)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/28 "2017-11-05T14:26:44Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> LOL I have 20 indy alts and have more SP than you. LOLOLO

Fixed.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/29 "2017-11-05T14:38:52Z")

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So… are you saying its hard to generate SPs? Im not, so I dont know where you get that you think Im boasting about a thing that requires no effort.

And 20 has 2 digits in it, not one, so… yeah. Try again, Dinnyfan.

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**Author:** ![Jasdemi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jasdemi/32/77975_2.png) [@Jasdemi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jasdemi)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/30 "2017-11-05T14:43:39Z")

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You seem kinda salty for no reason. And who is this Dinny guy you’re talking about? Maybe step away from the monitor a bit and sort out your life a bit?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/31 "2017-11-05T14:46:56Z")

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You appear to be lost and dont know why you are in this thread.

I think you need to reread the OP or just wait until your grandchildren arrive for dinner and they can explain to you how your computer machine works.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/32 "2017-11-05T15:17:03Z")

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Injectors will be the death of this game.

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**Author:** ![CMDR-HerpyDerpy\_Hurishima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmdr-herpyderpy_hurishima/32/25207_2.png) [@CMDR-HerpyDerpy\_Hurishima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CMDR-HerpyDerpy_Hurishima)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/33 "2017-11-05T16:19:47Z")

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Ah okay sorry, i misread.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/34 "2017-11-05T17:14:53Z")

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Thats cool, man. No worries 🙂

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**Author:** ![Alea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alea/32/32132_2.png) [@Alea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alea)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/35 "2017-11-05T18:47:13Z")

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Many of my mains are way past that point (03 chars) and it felt good to have that accomplishment but today it means nothing, instant gratification kiddies rule now.

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**Author:** ![Corporal\_Punishment08](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corporal_punishment08/32/190221_2.png) [@Corporal\_Punishment08](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corporal_Punishment08)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/36 "2017-11-05T19:44:45Z")

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I ran the numbers (numbers have been re-adjusted due to stupidity b/c maths is hards):

- Skill Injectors Required: 1021 = 200 million SP (minus 400k starting SP). This takes into account the diminishing amount of SP you get as you reach the specified milestones
- Skill Injectors = 783,999,000isk each
- Isk needed to get to 200 million SP = 1021 x 783,999,000 = 800,462,979,000isk
- PLEX prices = 3,100,000 each
- Isk needed divided by price of each PLEX needed to get there = 258,213 (and change): that gives you the number of PLEX you would need
- The real world price of PLEX: 2860 PLEX = $99
- Divide the number of PLEX you would need (250k) by the amount of PLEX you can get per transaction (2860), which gives you 90 (and change).
- You are making 90 transactions, at $99 per; that’s $8938 USD

If someone wants to waste $8900, that is perfectly fine by me.

And as someone who’s just started PVP, I can confirm that if you don’t know what you’re doing, it’ll cost you a heck of a lot more 😉  
There are steep learning curves to so many parts of this game. Just getting the SP doesn’t mean you will win anything.

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**Author:** ![Jasdemi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jasdemi/32/77975_2.png) [@Jasdemi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jasdemi)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/37 "2017-11-05T20:07:44Z")

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You sure your math is right?

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/38 "2017-11-05T20:40:33Z")

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> [@Marcus\_Alexzander](#):
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> Nothing has changed.

You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. In the beginning (2003) CCP said they would NEVER steer away from time-based skill points. Yes, they said, “NEVER”.

So, in that regard, a LOT has changed. It was and is a terrible idea.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/39 "2017-11-05T20:43:12Z")

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> [@Corporal\_Punishment08](#):
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> If someone wants to give CCP $8.6 million USD, that is perfectly fine by me.

I think the number you were looking for was [$28,000.00 US](http://massivelyop.com/2016/02/15/eve-player-uses-28000-of-skill-injectors-to-create-max-character/).

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**Author:** ![Earnest\_Emu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/earnest_emu/32/380843_2.png) [@Earnest\_Emu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Earnest_Emu)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/200-m-skill-points-the-honest-way/12509/40 "2017-11-05T20:46:43Z")

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No its not. There is a ton you can do with less than 3mil SP apart from whine on the forums.

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