# 2020/01/27 & 28 - TQ under DDoS

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [January 27, 2020, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981 "2020-01-27T09:16:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Matt\_Andromeda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/matt_andromeda/32/182295_2.png) [@Matt\_Andromeda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Matt_Andromeda)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/323 "2020-01-29T03:44:26Z")

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Same here. I am in contact with eve support right now.

“GM Arkarian  
Today at 22:21  
Greetings, GM Arkarian here!  
Please note that we are still experiencing some issues and it might take just a little longer for you to be able to login again. Try to remain patient while our experts deal with the situation.  
We apologize once again for all the inconvenience this is causing you.  
Best Regards,  
GM Arkarian  
CCP Player Experience | EVE Online”

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**Author:** ![Villtora\_Aldurald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villtora_aldurald/32/470717_2.png) [@Villtora\_Aldurald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villtora_Aldurald)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/324 "2020-01-29T04:19:05Z")

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Dude, this is golden!

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**Author:** ![Echostriker\_Xandros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echostriker_xandros/32/423192_2.png) [@Echostriker\_Xandros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echostriker_Xandros)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/325 "2020-01-29T06:02:57Z")

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Looks like the game is back up for now. TY 🙂

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/326 "2020-01-29T07:15:53Z")

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> [@Sleddie\_Madeveda](#):
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> No one does crap against the hackers.

What do you think should they be doing? Locking down the internet? Spying on all traffic? Deciding what you can and can not do? Do you want your government to know you’re watching midget porn? Do you want the state to decide what you can, and can’t watch? All of that, and more, is going to happen! The last thing people should want is their corrupt politicians to take away the single most freedom giving thing on the planet. The Internet! Don’t be ridiculous!

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**Author:** ![loonitunen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loonitunen/32/177823_2.png) [@loonitunen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/loonitunen)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/327 "2020-01-29T07:21:49Z")

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havn’t been able to log in at all since atleast Dt 28th of januar, it shows as online in the launcher, and does launch the game, but fails at authenticating, with this message.

Connection Timeout - The server did not initiate the compatibility-handshake within a reasonable amount of time

And well it is getting a bit annoying, since i have stuff to do, in game that is time sentitive…  
so i hope the attack/solution what ever is holding everything up is sorted out soonish

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**Author:** ![Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zita_pavilonfy/32/175754_2.png) [@Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zita_Pavilonfy)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/328 "2020-01-29T08:14:32Z")

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Just out of my curiosity, why would one target a link or device on route to CCP and not the service at CCP itself? If a link on route is congested then 1. other, unrelated services are impacted which would result in higher priority of countermeasures (by other involved parties too) 2. traffic can be (selectively) rerouted, making the attack of the link irrelevant to the service 3. forwarding packets needs lower capacity than actually interpreting and replying them which means an on-route attack must be stronger to be effective 4. an attack against a service can utilize specific knowledge about the service to become effective (similarly how TCP SYN flood filled queues in the past).

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**Author:** ![Reoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reoc/32/182248_2.png) [@Reoc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reoc)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/329 "2020-01-29T08:24:48Z")

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Connection Timeout - The server did not initiate the compatibility-handshake within a reasonable amount of time.

is this because of the problem from the DDos or is this a new problem ? I still cannot log into 3 accounts since yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zita_pavilonfy/32/175754_2.png) [@Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zita_Pavilonfy)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/330 "2020-01-29T08:42:34Z")

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In theory, all similar attacks could be eliminated if there were trusted networks of clients and services with preallocated bandwidth. Let’s say 90% of bandwidth of all routers connecting clients to the wider internet is allocated to traffic that has user authentication at the closest point to the user itself. This would make a random packet storm from worldwide source fill the 10% locally, making the neighbors unable to perform p2p file sharing and such and nothing more. As software as a service concept becomes more widely used I think trusted traffic can be more and more easy to identify.

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**Author:** ![Elem\_Ental](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elem_ental/32/473676_2.png) [@Elem\_Ental](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elem_Ental)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/331 "2020-01-29T12:31:10Z")

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Are these attacks still ongoing? Currently can’t log into the client. Getting a “Connection Failed” popup.

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**Author:** ![LordSky\_Shimaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordsky_shimaya/32/182255_2.png) [@LordSky\_Shimaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordSky_Shimaya)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/332 "2020-01-29T12:56:44Z")

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every hour for the last 18 hours I been trying to log in ☹

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/333 "2020-01-29T13:37:06Z")

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> [@Elem\_Ental](#):
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> Are these attacks still ongoing? Currently can’t log into the client. Getting a “Connection Failed” popup.

If you are still having issues after 03:40 UTC, then please contact Customer Support.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/334 "2020-01-29T13:39:10Z")

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> [@Reoc](#):
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> Connection Timeout - The server did not initiate the compatibility-handshake within a reasonable amount of time.
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> is this because of the problem from the DDos or is this a new problem ? I still cannot log into 3 accounts since yesterday.

Please contact Customer Support.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/335 "2020-01-29T13:41:37Z")

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> [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](#):
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> It could be that they’re particularly vulnerable due to migrating over to the 64bit client.

The 64 bit client is not the root cause in this incident.

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**Author:** ![Karol\_Godula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karol_godula/32/391303_2.png) [@Karol\_Godula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karol_Godula)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/336 "2020-01-29T13:51:29Z")

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Any form of compensation for those of us that haven’t been able to login and missed out on the Skilling spree?

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**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/337 "2020-01-29T13:57:09Z")

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Since any reward from this would only encourage anyone to do more DDoS attack, just for “free SP”. Don’t expect anything. And if you are unable to login for 24 hours, issue is somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Karol\_Godula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karol_godula/32/391303_2.png) [@Karol\_Godula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karol_Godula)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/338 "2020-01-29T14:09:54Z")

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First, haven’t been able to play since Monday. Because if the lag the game was unplayable. Second, the question was directed @FC_Convict who obviously monitors this thread

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/339 "2020-01-29T15:40:52Z")

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Then the problem isn’t related to the DDOS, there wasn’t a 48 hours downtime or heavy lag period at all.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/340 "2020-01-29T15:57:31Z")

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Are you one of those who believe that “trusted” means that _we_ can trust it?

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**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/341 "2020-01-29T15:59:19Z")

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Personal experience: I for one have had mixed results with this nonsense. I’ve done my usual activities of PVE and PVP. I dont see any outstanding reason to blame CCP for something that some external ass-hats are doing. I would honestly say that the best thing is to wait patiently and if you are logged in and playing the game to stick to “safer” activities with cheaper assets.

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**Author:** ![John\_Dryven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_dryven/32/441275_2.png) [@John\_Dryven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Dryven)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2020-01-27-28-tq-under-ddos/213981/342 "2020-01-29T16:52:05Z")

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> [@CCP\_Explorer](#):
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> If you are still having issues after 03:40 UTC, then please contact Customer Support.

@CCP_Explorer Does that mean the issues are resolved and we should expect no further problems ?

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