# 20220819 - Verbindungsprobleme (Deutschland) / Connection Issues (Germany) **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [August 19, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/20220819-verbindungsprobleme-deutschland-connection-issues-germany/374148 "2022-08-19T15:04:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 23
**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/20220819-verbindungsprobleme-deutschland-connection-issues-germany/374148/23 "2022-08-22T19:56:13Z")
> [@Nemrod\_Dreamwalker](#): > > Or do you prefer just running the batch file for a few minutes instead of the powershell thing? Yes, running the batch file commands continuously in the background and then on disconnect try and see if the traceroute changed at the same time (scroll through the traceroutes and see if the last few ones are the same or not). > [@](#): > > cloudflare disconnects quite a few times per hour - or better said, seems to switch between MUC and FRA and back without me beeing able to intervene- which disconnects at least eve , and some times (if it tooks longer) everything else too… like discord, youtube etc… Very interesting, but this network route instability will indeed disconnect EVE. If your connection starts in MUC, when it changes to FRA then the stateful network equipment in FRA will have no details of you and needs to reset the connection. > [@](#): > > so for now, i blame cloudflare and try an alternative vpn for now. We have learned that Deutsche Telekom doesn’t have any direct peering with Cloudflare. This issue is then more likely with Deutsche Telekom as they switch between different routes to Cloudflare (hopping across the networks of different companies that have direct peering) or with the carrier(s) that Deutsche Telekom uses. Furthermore, we have seen these types of issues before and they can be resolved but can only be resolved by the ISP, which is Deutsche Telekom in this case. First and foremost because they control their network routes but also because they are paying their carriers and therefore have contractual leverage. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/20220819-verbindungsprobleme-deutschland-connection-issues-germany/374148)._