# 2023/05/11 - Ongoing - Intermittent chat issues

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [May 11, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332 "2023-05-11T19:32:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nyx\_Viliana1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyx_viliana1/32/376238_2.png) [@Nyx\_Viliana1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyx_Viliana1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/638 "2023-05-14T20:49:50Z")

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You know, you would certainly think so, but I have seen some amazingly stupid and technically incorrect arguments from GMs recently.

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**Author:** ![Ran\_Cereya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ran_cereya/32/504376_2.png) [@Ran\_Cereya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ran_Cereya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/639 "2023-05-14T20:50:48Z")

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still waiting for an apology of some sort or something…

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**Author:** ![Etsaki\_Hilanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etsaki_hilanen/32/354806_2.png) [@Etsaki\_Hilanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etsaki_Hilanen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/640 "2023-05-14T20:51:03Z")

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> [@Ran\_Cereya](#):
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> Edit: Cant seem to find your zkill either…

wow…you cannot? WOW this say so much…you cannot even use zkill…

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**Author:** ![Aeria\_Dothraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aeria_dothraki/32/371115_2.png) [@Aeria\_Dothraki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aeria_Dothraki)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/642 "2023-05-14T20:51:46Z")

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![hilmar-veigar-petursson-882b3065](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/9/f196e109a1a4ba4eaafe229a6306433096d39c7a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Etsaki\_Hilanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etsaki_hilanen/32/354806_2.png) [@Etsaki\_Hilanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etsaki_Hilanen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/643 "2023-05-14T20:51:52Z")

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irrelevant…

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**Author:** ![Ran\_Cereya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ran_cereya/32/504376_2.png) [@Ran\_Cereya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ran_Cereya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/644 "2023-05-14T20:51:54Z")

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What about the rest of the post above that quote, friend?

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**Author:** ![Ran\_Cereya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ran_cereya/32/504376_2.png) [@Ran\_Cereya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ran_Cereya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/645 "2023-05-14T20:52:20Z")

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You attacked me for no reason and then try to slime away…just apologize bro…

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**Author:** ![Aeria\_Dothraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aeria_dothraki/32/371115_2.png) [@Aeria\_Dothraki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aeria_Dothraki)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/646 "2023-05-14T20:52:27Z")

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![dosomething](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/0/8/708d4910c5fc74d601f5dc23201e4f738703e48d.gif)

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**Author:** ![Alic\_Kutia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alic_kutia/32/463286_2.png) [@Alic\_Kutia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alic_Kutia)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/647 "2023-05-14T20:53:29Z")

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Who the hell said you guys get a break over the weekend?  
FIX WHAT YOU ■■■■■■■ BROKE

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**Author:** ![Ran\_Cereya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ran_cereya/32/504376_2.png) [@Ran\_Cereya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ran_Cereya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/648 "2023-05-14T20:53:37Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/a/96a8876ec4770edb4057983a4098f73fd867541b.jpeg)  
oh, i mean this makes sense i guess…

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**Author:** ![Alic\_Kutia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alic_kutia/32/463286_2.png) [@Alic\_Kutia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alic_Kutia)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/649 "2023-05-14T20:55:57Z")

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its almost like you guys are just doing blackout without admiting to it

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**Author:** ![BobbRoss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bobbross/32/357659_2.png) [@BobbRoss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BobbRoss)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/650 "2023-05-14T21:01:08Z")

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My chat has worked for 10 minutes starting at downtime, nothing since then. Restarted 10 times and every time the only channel that loads is “Rookie Help”. I haven’t even used this channel in months but consistently is the only one loading.

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**Author:** ![Cahastir\_Fjakarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cahastir_fjakarr/32/419612_2.png) [@Cahastir\_Fjakarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cahastir_Fjakarr)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/651 "2023-05-14T21:02:42Z")

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There are millions of lines of code and algorithm in the game. Localization alone can be tens of thousands of lines long. Trying to keep that consistent is impossible, and is why every game older than a year tends to suffer from spaghetti.

You’d only think that anyone would understand every line of code and algorithm if you have no idea how it even works. People leave, people forget, a comment isn’t left that doesn’t explain the purpose of a line of code but deleting it breaks the game so you leave it in, you have to do weird stuff to get things to work such as a seemingly useless IF statement. Etc.

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**Author:** ![Nyx\_Viliana1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyx_viliana1/32/376238_2.png) [@Nyx\_Viliana1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyx_Viliana1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/652 "2023-05-14T21:04:17Z")

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True, expecting any one dev to know all of Eve’s source code is unrealistic. Being able to simply look at a commit diff to see what things they changed in the patch that broke the universe on the other hand…?

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**Author:** ![Professor\_Khan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/professor_khan/32/371292_2.png) [@Professor\_Khan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Professor_Khan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/653 "2023-05-14T21:04:48Z")

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Happy 20th CCP. Nice you’re keeping us all updated on the broken local issue. 20 years of the same eh?

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**Author:** ![Nyx\_Viliana1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyx_viliana1/32/376238_2.png) [@Nyx\_Viliana1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyx_Viliana1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/654 "2023-05-14T21:07:51Z")

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OMG, I worked it out!

CCP aren’t ignoring us, they’re just trying to tell us in chat about why the game is broken.

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**Author:** ![Cahastir\_Fjakarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cahastir_fjakarr/32/419612_2.png) [@Cahastir\_Fjakarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cahastir_Fjakarr)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/655 "2023-05-14T21:11:31Z")

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Bug fixing isn’t that simple. They likely are looking back at what changes they made, but it may not be due to those. It could be a random bug that spawned in the servers or a piece of code that corrupted, somewhere. Maybe there was a 1 that was meant to be a 0. There are any number of causes, but since the chat going in-and-out, it isn’t a static cause which makes it all the more difficult to pinpoint.

It seems like they might just replace the chat entirety with the new local that actually works. That’ll probably be simpler than trying to track down whatever rogue code is causing the issue.

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**Author:** ![Nyx\_Viliana1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyx_viliana1/32/376238_2.png) [@Nyx\_Viliana1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyx_Viliana1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/656 "2023-05-14T21:12:50Z")

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True, but it’s also day six which means they’ve had over 120 hours to try and find what’s changed. Clearly winning so far.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Nijaj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_nijaj/32/371295_2.png) [@Don\_Nijaj](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Nijaj)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/657 "2023-05-14T21:16:26Z")

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o7,  
suddenly i lost half of my chat channels (they simply closed themselves), then they come back again but without names, just numbers in brackets. Unfortunately they did not work at anytime.

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**Author:** ![Graedon\_Mahron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/graedon_mahron/32/371139_2.png) [@Graedon\_Mahron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Graedon_Mahron)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/2023-05-11-ongoing-intermittent-chat-issues/405332/658 "2023-05-14T21:21:14Z")

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ha ha, I wish I was using chat gpt for this. I did for my current character’s histories, but here it is all me baby.

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