# 22 Accounts. 1 Cheater? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980 "2018-09-12T22:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Mala\_Zvitorepka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mala_zvitorepka/32/83676_2.png) [@Mala\_Zvitorepka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mala_Zvitorepka)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/203 "2018-09-14T13:32:08Z")
Yeah, that’s why in total it had to take at least 3 seconds, not a single second - I consider 3s on the edge for that many ships if speed was required for a single command (as opposed to many commands in a row with the same 7 commands/s rate) 1. True, I assumed he operated all the ships, while there could be more players - so the total time required would be a tad lower… but I doubt it would be notably lower. 2. If a player could give the commands manually, automation is not illegal with respect to the quoted terms. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/204 "2018-09-14T13:33:10Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Hauling =/= Mining No one tried to say something else. It’s just that hauling your stuff in Highsec requires a mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/205 "2018-09-14T13:33:47Z")
24 individual accounts. Not 7. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/206 "2018-09-14T13:34:30Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > It’s just that hauling your stuff in Highsec requires a mining permit. No. It does not. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/207 "2018-09-14T13:37:13Z")
Is no answer because there you caused a serious cognitive dissonance so the reply was void of any logic content. The fact is that they treat their targets based just on one single criteria, how defenseless they are. Occupation is irrelevant for them as incentive of criteria of differentiation… being easy targets is all what matters. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/208 "2018-09-14T13:37:39Z")
I think IMA gonna buy some shares tonight 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/209 "2018-09-14T13:38:34Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > No. > It does not. Denial will help no one. You are just misguiding people. What is someone got hurt because they read your post and did not purchase a mining permit because of it? That blood would be on your hands. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/210 "2018-09-14T13:39:18Z")
If he turns out to have used illegal automation, would you regard him as a cheater? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/211 "2018-09-14T13:40:33Z")
Yes, but he isn’t using illegal automation. He is just really good at EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/212 "2018-09-14T13:40:38Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When the wolf kills the sheep, its not because the shepard issued false alarms. Its because the towns-people no longer cared to act. Which is the direct result of making false accusations. In any case, innocent until proven guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/213 "2018-09-14T13:41:24Z")
This is like arguing with children. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/214 "2018-09-14T13:46:55Z")
Nobody live in denial more than you, or projecting more. I am puzzled that you even managed to accept the projection as a real thing. And that because you delude yourself that you are an awful person just in the digital world, and not in relation with real people in general. What your mind try to elude is that at any moment you interact with real persons having real feeling, and that count as much as anywhere else… Then you will try to argue that you that to them because they deserve bad things to happen to them… And the chain of rationalizing will go ad infinitum… ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/216 "2018-09-14T13:48:34Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > How would you know? Childish behavior and arguments 😉 Is not even rocket science… 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/217 "2018-09-14T13:48:47Z")
I have never said that I’m not a bad person in RL. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/218 "2018-09-14T13:49:26Z")
And what do you do thats so good and noble? Do you do anything but criticise? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/219 "2018-09-14T13:50:03Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Hauling =/= Mining This was dealt with years ago: > **[Yes, All Freighters Need Mining Permits](http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/06/yes-all-freighters-need-mining-permits.html)** > > A bit of controversy was stirred up earlier this week when Agent loyalanon posted a friendly public service announcement that all freighte... ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/220 "2018-09-14T13:50:10Z")
Is about self image, not about what you have said. ---
**Author:** ![z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rella_zazzmataz/32/96427_2.png) [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rella_Zazzmataz)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/221 "2018-09-14T13:50:10Z")
i just met you and this is crazy, but do you have any corpses you would want to give a new home? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/222 "2018-09-14T13:52:14Z")
Sorry, I’m a collector 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/224 "2018-09-14T13:55:05Z")
Actually Im tempted to invest the isk in some Cats and such. Which brings more benefit, freelance enforcement or shares? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980.md?page=12)