# 22 Accounts. 1 Cheater? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980 "2018-09-12T22:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/102 "2018-09-13T15:38:15Z")
due to the way volleys work 10 in the same 4 second block would work ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/103 "2018-09-13T15:38:49Z")
> [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](#): > > there’s alternative task switchers for that. they’re allowing you to switch through windows sequentially. You misunderstand. This isnt about how you switch between windows, its the time it takes for the OS to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/104 "2018-09-13T15:39:23Z")
> [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](#): > > due to the way volleys work 10 in the same 4 second block would work Same second is what I asked. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/105 "2018-09-13T15:39:55Z")
oh thats right logs not killmail. my bad. btw still keen on sharing that i’m curious ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/106 "2018-09-13T15:40:34Z")
> [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](#): > > due to the way volleys work 10 in the same 4 second block would work You are confusing the time it takes for a weapon to re-fire, with the the time it takes to submit 30 individual manual fire orders to 30 different accounts. Do try to keep up… ---
**Author:** ![z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rella_zazzmataz/32/96427_2.png) [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rella_Zazzmataz)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/107 "2018-09-13T15:46:46Z")
that’s gonna be pretty much instantly, because all clients are residing in RAM and none of it is going to get cached out due to all of them being active instead of idle. only idle programs have pages being swapped out and in times of SSDs that’s not even a problem anymore anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/108 "2018-09-13T15:48:04Z")
> [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](#): > > that’s gonna be pretty much instantly, because all clients are residing in RAM and none of it is going to get cached out due to all of them being active instead of idle. only idle programs have pages being swapped out and in times of SSDs that’s not even a problem anymore anyway. If the EVE client windows are being flipped through via automation rather than player manual input per flip, that violates TOS/EULA. ---
**Author:** ![z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rella_zazzmataz/32/96427_2.png) [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rella_Zazzmataz)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/109 "2018-09-13T15:49:14Z")
there’s no automatation happening, mate. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/110 "2018-09-13T15:53:21Z")
> [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](#): > > there’s no automatation happening, mate. Then what is causing the flipping between active EVE client windows? ---
**Author:** ![z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rella_zazzmataz/32/96427_2.png) [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rella_Zazzmataz)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/111 "2018-09-13T15:54:05Z")
the pressing of alt+tab which’s caught by the program, which then flips to the next client. when i check my brockhaus for “osmium” there’s a picture of you. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/112 "2018-09-13T15:56:02Z")
If manual input by the player is what is causing flipping between active EVE client windows, then thats fine, and is not automation. Dunno what your point is then. This was already said earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/113 "2018-09-13T16:07:14Z")
You couldn’t fit enough BPOs so you added the cargo expanders? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/114 "2018-09-13T16:10:39Z")
I got halfway through this trainwreck of a thread before I tabbed down to the bottom… not sure if it has been said or not, but: ISBoxer is a thing. It’s not just for input broadcasting. You can literally tile 20 accounts across your monitor… one finger on F1, other hand on the mouse sequentially clicking between them. Tiling clients is permissible, so long as you’re displaying the entire window (the scale of which is not a subject of the eula). - Squad warp to target - Click on window 1, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 - Click next window, hit F1 It would take maybe 10 seconds tops to legitimately activate the guns on this many accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/115 "2018-09-13T16:11:17Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > Don’t bother anymore with your damage control effort and coverup for ganker cheaters, they will be removed very soon anyway from EVE, as the new owners will focus on profit more than on some sociopathic minority and their gore gameplay (even if they are a very loyal customers, the need for numbers will prevail). New owners, hell the existing staff just gave us “Unload without Docking” the end is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/116 "2018-09-13T16:12:31Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > between all alts, everyone is in perfect sync with the others when they undock, align, warp Warping can be done as a fleet easily enough, and thats with a single account, i mean you’re free to report it to CCP if you’re desperate but we’ve given you perfectly good examples of why it isn’t what you think it is, considering the server operates on 1 second ticks, if you’re fast enough multiple accounts can be firing at once just because of that delay ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/117 "2018-09-13T16:12:44Z")
Without any 3rd party tools you can do pretty well with Windows Key + Tab. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/118 "2018-09-13T16:13:20Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Without any 3rd party tools you can do pretty well with Windows Key + Tab. Very true. But if you wanna take it to the next level, you can third party tool it legitimately. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/119 "2018-09-13T16:34:29Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > - Squad warp to target > - Click on window 1, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 > - Click next window, hit F1 And targeting? Just to be clear on what you are saying. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/120 "2018-09-13T16:36:11Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > And targeting? Just to be clear on what you are saying. Meh, target will be in the middle of the screen if you warp in right. Just ctrl+click the target and then F1. It’ll shoot when it locks. You could in concept also edit hotkeys so that F1 is guns and F2 is lock, or Ctrl+F1 is guns (to just hold ctrl down the whole time). ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980/121 "2018-09-13T16:38:38Z")
I was assuming that he warped in with the guns already activated, so it was just a matter of control clicking the target which is in the middle of the screen. Could you do 10 within one second? So that would be al-tab, Ctrl click ten times within one second. 🤨 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/22-accounts-1-cheater/105980.md?page=7)