# 3 Battlecruisers and 1 Frigate VS Tengus **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [January 25, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148 "2023-01-25T15:20:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/21 "2023-01-27T16:30:31Z")
> [@TiberianSun371AlexW](#): > > I thought the rapid lights would have some weakness but I can’t find any since their range reaches 40 km. Considerably low DPS and a prohibitively long reload time are the weakness. If the range was only 40km that would be another weakness, as a Garmur or Ceptor could just safely orbit the RLML Tengu… not to mention the Keres. Range should be around 50-ish, and if you feel that’s too little, getting it to 70 shouldm’t be hard, either. ---
**Author:** ![TiberianSun371AlexW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiberiansun371alexw/32/510819_2.png) [@TiberianSun371AlexW](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TiberianSun371AlexW)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/22 "2023-01-27T17:48:39Z")
> [@Moko\_Musana](#): > > Range should be around 50-ish Right, of course a computer module would be used, I really shouldn’t expect the baseline ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/23 "2023-01-27T21:03:57Z")
Seconding the porpoise fit, I have a bait alt that uses an almost identical fit to great effect. I’ve been burned before by active shield ships that turn out to be blinged with drugs and HG crystals making them far more tanky than expected, hence erring on the side of caution. ---
**Author:** ![TiberianSun371AlexW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiberiansun371alexw/32/510819_2.png) [@TiberianSun371AlexW](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TiberianSun371AlexW)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/24 "2023-01-28T16:28:28Z")
Do low sec roaming Tengus commonly carry modules for a refit? My biggest concern with using anything larger than a destroyer is that the last thing I want is someone to think “wow, that’s a big whale. Let’s use heavies instead of lights” And I’d be sad if they did that even if the bait lived. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/25 "2023-01-30T14:26:55Z")
My LowSec Tengu, 900 DPS Cloaky. Only Refit I carry is a Covert Cyno 😃 Only 1.5bil Tengu - Peek-a-Boo High power 1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II 1x Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher 6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Medium power 2x Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender 1x Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive 1x Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 1x Caldari Navy EM Shield Hardener 1x Pithum C-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener Low power 1x Damage Control II 2x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Rig Slot 3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Sub System 1x Tengu Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration 1x Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 1x Tengu Propulsion - Chassis Optimization 1x Tengu Core - Augmented Graviton Reactor Modules 1x Covert Cynosural Field Generator I ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/26 "2023-01-30T19:32:22Z")
> [@TiberianSun371AlexW](#): > > or a single tactical destroyer. The t3 cruisers will cost 500 million+ , Kill one and it is a win. The frigate only has to last long enough for a BC to warp to it and scram the t3. An AF like the retribution has a sig bonus, and being small should take little damage from HAMs An AF can Activate it’s module to be give near invincibility for 10 seconds, once it gets a hold of a t3. ---
**Author:** ![TiberianSun371AlexW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiberiansun371alexw/32/510819_2.png) [@TiberianSun371AlexW](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TiberianSun371AlexW)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/27 "2023-01-30T21:14:42Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > The frigate only has to last long enough for a BC to warp to it and scram the t3. Yeah I know that. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > An AF like the retribution has a sig bonus, and being small should take little damage from HAMs But I’m thinking about trying to nab a Tengu with Rapid Lights, so… > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > An AF can Activate it’s module to be give near invincibility for 10 seconds, once it gets a hold of a t3. Even against rapid lights? If yes, thanks. If “no, it only works on HAMs” it’s back to the drawing board. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/28 "2023-01-30T21:44:26Z")
> [@TiberianSun371AlexW](#): > > Even against rapid lights For 10 secs , my AF has over 30k ehp. If I fit it just to tackle and no dps, would be quite a bit more. That is quite alot of dps to do once it is eventually locked before a bc gets a hold of you. Your dps is also gonna suck if using rapid lights on a t3. the bc’s will own you. Unless you flying something like a neuting legion, a t3 that gets caught by a BC is dead, the BC’s like the hurricane should be carrying neuts which will destroy a tengu’s tank. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-battlecruisers-and-1-frigate-vs-tengus/393148/29 "2023-04-30T21:45:08Z")
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