# 3 Thing you would like to see changed in Eve Online

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**Created:** [September 13, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799 "2022-09-13T18:05:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/164 "2022-09-29T05:48:35Z")

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> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> No, but smaller tactical squads will always fare better against massive, unorganized hordes–hence the debuff idea.

Cept the horde isn’t un-organized.

Hence why your small tact squad getting blapped 😃

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/165 "2022-09-29T06:32:04Z")

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Then there shouldnt be a problem with numbers on the other side either?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/166 "2022-09-29T06:33:03Z")

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Why do you pay a subscription if you just live in HS?

Theres really no need

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_mo_rane/32/333433_2.png) [@Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Mo_rane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/167 "2022-09-29T08:08:32Z")

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Because…  
if someone wants to use anything bigger than a Venture they need Omega.  
If they don’t want their skill queue to outlive them they need Omega.  
If they want to fly better iterations of the “normal” ships they need Omega.  
If they want to have another clone tucked away in a vat somewhere they need Omega.  
If they want to shoot better iterations of the “normal” guns they need Omega.  
If they want to shoot better iterations of the “normal” ammo they need Omega.  
…  
Alpha is only a trial… personally I think it sucks but it seems some people are happy to play half a game, go figure…

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**Author:** ![Omoota\_Lu\_Oronhaye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omoota_lu_oronhaye/32/336137_2.png) [@Omoota\_Lu\_Oronhaye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omoota_Lu_Oronhaye)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/168 "2022-09-29T09:04:15Z")

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1 - CCP should add space pubs.  
NE is the only place in the world where you cannot have a beer or have a scuffle in peace.  
2- every pub should sell Plutonian Nyborg  
3- every pub should have exotic dancers dancing naked

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/169 "2022-09-29T10:58:04Z")

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Theres a lot of ifs there friend.

But I make plenty on Alpha in HS every day.

Omega is for people who want to leave it.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_mo_rane/32/333433_2.png) [@Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Mo_rane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/170 "2022-09-29T11:14:14Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Theres a lot of ifs there friend.

Yep. They’re assuptions, assuming they want all that they want Omega.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> But I make plenty on Alpha in HS every day.
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> Omega is for people who want to leave it.

… or mine in something bigger than a Venture or fight in something better than Alpha-available ships.  
Not saying Omega is best for everybody though. I take Omega cause I want to experience everything in the game.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/171 "2022-09-29T11:41:29Z")

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Sure, Id just recommend getting the most out of Alpha first.

The fun factor of Omega is not in equal size to its cost

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_mo_rane/32/333433_2.png) [@Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Mo_rane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/172 "2022-09-29T11:54:54Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Sure, Id just recommend getting the most out of Alpha first.

That’s a choice, of course.  
I personally chose to get my skill queue training faster and train into Omega-only ships/modules/ammo. That’s my choice.  
It’s nice that CCP gives new players choices. All those players who play on Alpha and complain about Omega prices should reflect on the fact that CCP doesn’t have to let anyone play for free and although it may bring in cash in the form of PLEX sales it is still something to acknowledge in favor of CCP.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/173 "2022-09-29T11:57:17Z")

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True but all the players who moan that Omega is so much better than Alpha really havent even begun to see what you can do on it.

I was solidly Omega for 10 years, and tbh Id advise any new player to remain Alpha for at least one if not two years before deciding if Omega is right for them.

At the minute, I really dont believe its value for money.

That said, Id agree to have Alpha removed in a heartbeat if it meant a solid return to subscription based play.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_mo_rane/32/333433_2.png) [@Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Mo_rane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/174 "2022-09-29T12:04:54Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> At the minute, I really dont believe its value for money.

There are very little things sold nowadays that are value for the money, that’s when we don’t outright get ripped off on the price and that’s not even counting the taxes on top of taxes for the taxes that are taxed… so 20 bucks a month for entertainment is equal to Netflix or Disney+ but I choose to spend money on EVE instead of on streaming services that produce program that insult my intelligence and plagiarize my favorite stories and characters.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/175 "2022-09-29T12:06:27Z")

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So its equal to something you think is terrible.

And thats somehow not a bad thing.

Gotcha.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_mo_rane/32/333433_2.png) [@Bob\_Mo\_rane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Mo_rane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/176 "2022-09-29T12:15:14Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> So its equal to something you think is terrible.
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> And thats somehow not a bad thing.
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> Gotcha

You only want to argue and create hard feelings here. I’m done with you.  
Enjoy the game and have a good week.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/177 "2022-09-29T12:17:21Z")

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Yeah yeah, its always the other person isnt it.

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/178 "2022-09-29T12:22:00Z")

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To be fair Ramona you do play the antagonist well 😃

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/179 "2022-09-29T12:23:01Z")

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Thank you 🙂

I dont think its a profession though sadly.

Id have to ask @Bob_Mo_rane

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/180 "2022-09-29T12:24:36Z")

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No but it is an ethos!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/181 "2022-09-29T12:26:58Z")

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The only question I once found hard

Was did I like Kirk or did I like Picard

Then came Picard Seasons 1 and 2

And that made me sure in the TOS crew.

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/182 "2022-09-29T12:35:49Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Was did I like Kirk or did I like Picard
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> Then came Picard Seasons 1 and 2

For me Kirk was a swash buckler, an analogue for the kind of captain that might have been played by Robert shaw or Errol Flynn transferred into space. I felt it was partly a function of the ‘frontier’ nature of the setting but also he was a product of the time it was filmed. When Pirates and Cowboys still had a lot of pull to them on the silver screen and didn’t necessarily need to be combined with zombies to make them exciting. So it wasn’t that I liked Kirk persay but more I respected he couldn’t have been any other way.

Hands down Picard is more sophisticated, a better leader, better acted, more nuanced in almost every way as was right for the evolution of cinema since then. Half the TNG episodes are solved through diplomacy and philosophy more than bold actions and charisma. Yet I feel if you dropped Picard into TOS setting he would feel out of place and wouldn’t be nearly as successful.

TLDR I don’t think one is I barely better than the other (beyond acting chops), they are both right for their very different settings.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/3-thing-you-would-like-to-see-changed-in-eve-online/376799/183 "2022-09-29T12:37:55Z")

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Im guessing you havent seen season 1 and 2 of Picard then.

Or any of the movies hes in.

> [@Ferdiad\_Silver](#):
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> Picard is more sophisticated, a better leader, better acted, more nuanced in almost every way

As the above was done away with in those creations.

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