# 64-bit Mac Client, Wine, and YOU

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274>\
**Category:** Mac OS\
**Created:** [March 1, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274 "2019-03-01T16:34:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Erytnicmcire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erytnicmcire/32/390958_2.png) [@Erytnicmcire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erytnicmcire)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/61 "2019-09-12T14:11:58Z")

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Unable to initiate warp via any method without the 64-bit client crashing. Bug report submitted. Falling . back to 32-bit works around warp crashing issue.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/62 "2019-09-12T15:34:42Z")

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Same here. 64-bit client was working fine until today, but today’s patch broke it, making the game unplayable on an iMac with a Radeon Pro 580X running macOS 10.14.6.

Client freezes (rather than crashing) immediately after undocking and initiating warp or shortly afterwards in windowed mode (haven’t tried full screen).

Good thing I can still switch back to 32-bit and that seems to work fine.

EDIT: Actually, I take that back. 32-bit does definitely work _better_ than 64-bit, but I just got a client freeze jumping gate running in 32-bit mode too.

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**Author:** ![Dracx\_Ghekon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracx_ghekon/32/330213_2.png) [@Dracx\_Ghekon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracx_Ghekon)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/63 "2019-09-12T16:37:52Z")

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Second warp of the day and I crashed resulting in [https://zkillboard.com/kill/78904469/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78904469/)

Total bust for me in either 32 or 64 bit mode. Haven’t been able to play at all.

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**Author:** ![Nissaba\_Grooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nissaba_grooth/32/426165_2.png) [@Nissaba\_Grooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nissaba_Grooth)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/64 "2019-09-13T02:24:23Z")

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I have not been able to use the normal key short cut for copy and paste. its a dan paine yes.

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**Author:** ![Ken\_Otsolen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ken_otsolen/32/487907_2.png) [@Ken\_Otsolen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ken_Otsolen)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/65 "2019-09-13T05:52:13Z")

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me too.  
seems like eve thinks command key is Alt key.

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**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/66 "2019-09-13T08:50:39Z")

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Oh another thing that’s been an issue for a while and I can’t remember if I raised it (feels like I have).

If I alt tab between two characters, randomly when I’m back on either of the characters and start to do anything like type in chat or search for a system, as I type loads of windows pop up (assets, character, ingame email, starmap etc) as if I have the Command key stuck down and I’ve just pressed a Cmd + [key] shortcut . It also invariably puts that character from full screen mode into windowed mode, assume depending on what I type.

I find individually pressing Command, Option, Control and Fn resolves it, but seemingly just pressing Command does not (might be observer error).

Only happens when I’ve alt tabbed (you know Command + Tab) … is there any way to resolve this … it makes it incredibly stressful during fights, to have multiple pop up windows and that character in the wrong window mode. Also, remembering to hit Command Option Control fn between each alt tab is a behaviour I don’t want to get into.

Anyone else get this ?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Antiquarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_antiquarian/32/244901_2.png) [@CCP\_Antiquarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Antiquarian)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/67 "2019-09-13T10:15:11Z")

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Hey All,

We’re looking into Mac issues with the September update now.

For this current release, please contribute feedback here: [September Release - Known Issues & Feedback (Mac)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/september-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/188893/15)

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**Author:** ![LesliePaige](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesliepaige/32/173787_2.png) [@LesliePaige](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LesliePaige)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/68 "2019-09-15T19:27:03Z")

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64 bit would not launch  
-loaded XQuartz-2.7.7.dmg & winehq-stable-4.0.2.pkg

That fixed the launch issue, and then created game freeze at start of warp  
-highlight launcher \> Eve Launcher \> preferences \> do the following:  
-Version type = Release  
-Run clients with 64 bit (checked)  
-Use system configuration for proxy (checked)  
-Enable hardware rendering(checked)  
-Use dev versions (checked under Wine options)  
-Wine version = wine-4.4-Staging-winehq-binary-198  
-Retina mode (checked)  
-Video memory (4096)  
-Singularity & Duality (checked)

#Note - You can probably uncheck Retina and leave video memory at Auto, but after hours of trying different versions of wine at various settings I needed a break…& if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

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**Author:** ![Mentat\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mentat_nakrar/32/160673_2.png) [@Mentat\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mentat_Nakrar)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/69 "2019-09-15T20:00:39Z")

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> [@Attidack](#):
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> Im game, I would just love to be able to see eve the way other players do. Please dont forget this the mac client! More mac users would play if it was stable… all of us at work have to use apple products because of the programs we need to utilize for a/v. On more then one occasion i have had a friend start playing and stop due to stablility on the mac os… if we could fix this we would see more mac users. to look at the metric of only 5.5% of players is mac, well we are the 5.5% of players that put up with broken way of playing for YEARS! a native mac client with real fps would increase the communities marketability. The only reason we dont have more mac players is literally because we dont have a native mac client.

Totally agree with Attidack here. There have been native clients for “indie-esque” games like minecraft (since Alpha), it’s beyond me why CCP hasn’t recruited a team of dedicated Mac developers (or at least consultants) to port the game over to Mac yet.

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**Author:** ![grenville\_averti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grenville_averti/32/264006_2.png) [@grenville\_averti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/grenville_averti)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/70 "2019-09-16T15:27:14Z")

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> [@Vapor](#):
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> If I alt tab between two characters, randomly when I’m back on either of the characters and start to do anything like type in chat or search for a system, as I type loads of windows pop up (assets, character, ingame email, starmap etc) as if I have the Command key stuck down and I’ve just pressed a Cmd + [key] shortcut . It also invariably puts that character from full screen mode into windowed mode, assume depending on what I type.
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> I find individually pressing Command, Option, Control and Fn resolves it, but seemingly just pressing Command does not (might be observer error).
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> Only happens when I’ve alt tabbed (you know Command + Tab) … is there any way to resolve this … it makes it incredibly stressful during fights, to have multiple pop up windows and that character in the wrong window mode. Also, remembering to hit Command Option Control fn between each alt tab is a behaviour I don’t want to get into.
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> Anyone else get this ?

I do- total PITA

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**Author:** ![grenville\_averti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grenville_averti/32/264006_2.png) [@grenville\_averti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/grenville_averti)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/71 "2019-09-16T15:33:55Z")

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I thought the default client was now 64bit but on my macs the wine process is 32 bit?  
I’ve not purposefully chnaged to 64 bit as the time I did try was crap, disconnecting me from Eve for days. Even still on 32 bit I have the key binding issues and stupid dangerous carry over of modifiyer keys when switching between client windows.

So are most mac users now happily on 64bit or is my bad experience commonplace?

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**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/72 "2019-09-16T20:37:27Z")

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Guys, this is frustrating. 64-bit warp bug was present. Switched to 32-bit but it was hanging occasionally, so I followed the forum directions to ensure the 64-bit wine was deleted. Now, the client won’t even launch. Tried uninstalling and starting over, but it still won’t even launch. Nothing works anymore.

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**Author:** ![Luke\_Bizzy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luke_bizzy/32/236835_2.png) [@Luke\_Bizzy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luke_Bizzy)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/73 "2019-09-17T05:01:35Z")

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I did a different variation on the instructions.

- Start launcher
- Click on EVE launcher in the apple menu at the top of the screen
- Select preferences.
- Make sure Run clients with 64 bit is **NOT** ticked.
- Make sure wine version is set to wine-1.9.17-143-g91037ca-ccp-master-72
- Click ok
- Close the launcher and the client if either is running.
- Deleted Wine folder
- Ran the launcher
- Clicked on the Apple and set WINE version to “Most Recent” making sure 64b is unchecked
- Waited for update-\> Then launched the game  
Now 32 Bit mode “Warping” is back on my Macbook Pro Mojave 10.14.6 using Intel Iris Graphics 6100

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**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/74 "2019-09-17T08:16:53Z")

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Following those instructions, the launcher will now run the 32-bit client.

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**Author:** ![Gensa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gensa/32/160559_2.png) [@Gensa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gensa)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/75 "2019-09-17T12:57:39Z")

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I did the exact same thing. Took me 3 hours to get back to where I started.  
32 bit will no longer work for me. It did initially.  
This is what I did to get 64 bit running again.

EVE Launcher -\> Preferences: uncheck “Use system configuration for proxy”  
Launcher Window -\> Launcher Settings: Run game as 64 bit client.  
I also had to -\> download full EVE game client.

This got me back to running 64 bit mode again, but now have the Warp Freeze bug again.  
I am staying docked, until this is fixed.  
I may even cancel my account AGAIN…getting too old and too tired of always waiting.

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**Author:** ![Gensa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gensa/32/160559_2.png) [@Gensa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gensa)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/76 "2019-09-17T13:25:39Z")

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OK, I followed Luke Bizzy’s instructions and once again run 32 bit.

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**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/77 "2019-09-19T10:06:55Z")

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Yep so I didn’t do any frigging around with deleting files or changing settings other than to untick 64bit box in preferences, close launcher and reopen.

For me it has been working fine in 32bit. It’s not quite as smooth as 64bit, but it doesn’t crash/freeze.

If it helps anyone I’m on Sierra 10.12.6 on a Mac Book Pro 2017. Using latest version in launcher settings.

One thing that happens now though, is that I can’t log my main and my alt on at the same time. One is fine, the other launches in a dramatically reduced size at the corner of he screen so is unplayable. I also can’t alt tab between the windows in one move. I have to alt tab to desktop then alt tab to the second character.

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**Author:** ![Mercuras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mercuras/32/177424_2.png) [@Mercuras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mercuras)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/78 "2019-09-30T01:15:50Z")

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If you’re testing 64 bit and/or 10.15, using the test servers?

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**Author:** ![Snidely\_Ripslash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snidely_ripslash/32/273724_2.png) [@Snidely\_Ripslash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snidely_Ripslash)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/79 "2019-10-01T23:46:02Z")

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Just got a new Wine download and everything seems to be working now… any official word from a Dev?

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**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/80 "2019-10-02T08:27:01Z")

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Official update - 64bit issues resolved

> [@How to configure the launcher for 64 bit version, How to configure the launcher for 32 bit version](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-configure-the-launcher-for-64-bit-version-how-to-configure-the-launcher-for-32-bit-version/189373/33):
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> We have been communicating with the developers regarding the issues that have affected MacOS users, and we are happy to let you know that these issues should now be resolved with the latest version of wine and this is considered to be a permanent fix to these issues rather than any previously provided workarounds. This latest update should ensure compatibility with the 64 bit version of the client, resolve any issues with the client not starting properly or repeatedly crashing as well as that t…

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