# 8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973>\
**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973 "2017-06-20T15:33:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/381 "2020-09-29T03:26:20Z")

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Yup 🙂

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**Author:** ![TrueDark\_Masta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/truedark_masta/32/303746_2.png) [@TrueDark\_Masta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrueDark_Masta)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/382 "2020-09-29T07:46:22Z")

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I got a thrill every time killing or been killed. It is a main reason i play this game. It is my fun.  
I am sure that noob got his fun too.

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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/383 "2020-09-29T07:57:09Z")

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> [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](#):
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> He was a noob!  
> How could he have known!

See this thread:

> [@ISD\_Athechu](#):
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> Be able to afford a loss
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> - Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit.

It’s literally rule number 1!

If this was in the starter space, well that shouldn’t happen and CCP will/should step in an fix this and punish someone messing with newbies in the starter system. But the tutorials teach you that ships can be lost, not to mention the game was designed so that new players didn’t have 32B ISK in stuff to lose. If you ignore the tutorials, or RMT yourself a bunch of stuff on day 1, you kinda have to take some responsibility for your loss. There isn’t any way a criminal can know you are a clueless new player once you leave the starter system, so you are fair game.

Exactly as the Golden Rules above spell out.

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**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/384 "2020-09-29T10:21:41Z")

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There’s 1500 killed Ibises in the last 7 days - without further filters there’s no chance to find that kill. So as long as you don’t show a killmail, I consider that “fake news”.

Most expensive Ibis/Velator/Impairor/Reaper loss the last 7 days: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/87384841/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/87384841/) Bad luck, in Jita, 1b because of just one expensive booster you receive after buddy invite. But not a new player.

A newbro transporting 32b is either ignorant and way too rich, or not existing.

That looks like ouch: [https://zkillboard.com/character/2058664068/](https://zkillboard.com/character/2058664068/)  
That’s why we propagate these 8 golden rules. No noob as well, though.

If you want to carry on searching very expensive kills: [https://zkillboard.com/kills/10b](https://zkillboard.com/kills/10b)

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**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/387 "2020-11-16T14:49:43Z")

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I wonder if there was an additional punishment for smartbombing the arrival point of the fireworks event in Jita or Lirsautton…

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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/388 "2020-11-17T03:06:54Z")

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lol if someone did that that is awesome

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/389 "2020-12-03T12:46:49Z")

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Do these rules apply to PVE/PVP content like the recent Perimeter incursions?

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**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/390 "2020-12-08T23:44:02Z")

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this is what it is really all about

PLEX, giving you access to the best ships and skills in the game, while also allowing you to sell your PLEX for millions of ISK on the in-game market which you can then spend on ships, weapons, and equipment!

players should not expect to earn isk any more. (see recent changes) its all about buying and selling plex to get your isk and injectors

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**Author:** ![Kamorra\_Umyr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kamorra_umyr/32/245463_2.png) [@Kamorra\_Umyr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kamorra_Umyr)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/391 "2020-12-09T19:28:16Z")

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I was about to say that being sneaky is best, but alas, sneakiness requires patience.

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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/392 "2020-12-09T21:17:51Z")

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I make my EVE living by making ISK. To be fair, LP is actually an ISK sink, and a good one at that, but I have not paid a cent and am going on 2 months omega. I certainly expect to be making ISK in the future, and this game is not pay to win, or even pay to play. The amount of experience and skill needed is one of the many reasons why I like this game.

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**Author:** ![Simon\_Yee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/simon_yee/32/295580_2.png) [@Simon\_Yee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Simon_Yee)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/393 "2021-01-04T07:35:11Z")

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Hi

I think the rules stands don’t be greedy. Biting off more what you can chew.

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**Author:** ![Darthmolor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darthmolor/32/247828_2.png) [@Darthmolor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darthmolor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/394 "2021-01-04T20:04:38Z")

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You could have summarized this whole write-up with the following words.

“stay docked”

This is obviously just a way for experienced players to lay claim to the entire game. This is not the point of the game. This should not be an economic money machine for CCP by doing negative intangible asset swaps at the objection of players.

My response is, this way of running a sandbox simulator (note i did not say game) just leads to a fraud scam system. CCP must decide if it is a game or a sandbox. High sec is for players who pay real world money for in game assets and low sec is for players who run in sandboxes and print isk using organized racist militant culture.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/395 "2021-01-04T21:34:09Z")

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**Author:** ![Darthmolor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darthmolor/32/247828_2.png) [@Darthmolor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darthmolor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/396 "2021-01-04T22:23:14Z")

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If I interpret your pictures correctly, you think the same thing as i do.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/397 "2021-01-04T22:28:50Z")

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I’m afraid I do not. I apologise for my lack of clarity in communicating my opinion of your opinion.

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**Author:** ![ShahFluffers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shahfluffers/32/258921_2.png) [@ShahFluffers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ShahFluffers)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/398 "2021-01-05T03:59:55Z")

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> [@Darthmolor](#):
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> low sec is for players who run in sandboxes and print isk using _ **organized racist militant culture** _.

😂

Also, you missed the point of the “rules.”  
They are meant as “travel advisories” rather than “do this / don’t do this.”

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**Author:** ![TrueDark\_Masta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/truedark_masta/32/303746_2.png) [@TrueDark\_Masta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrueDark_Masta)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/399 "2021-01-05T09:56:09Z")

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> [@Darthmolor](#):
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> and low sec is for players who run in sandboxes and print isk using organized racist militant culture.

Explain pls, what was a reason to choose that nickname @Darthmolor? Looks like Sith name from Star Wars.

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**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/400 "2021-01-05T10:59:54Z")

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> [@Darthmolor](#):
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> CCP must decide if it is a game or a sandbox.

Already done, 17 years ago: It’s a sandbox and not “Hello Kitty Online”.

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/401 "2021-01-05T11:08:57Z")

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[CCP RATTATI’S RETIREMENT PLAN.](https://creatives.extccp.com/t4f56063d/img/szszg_3utynz_19cbe032.png)

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/402 "2021-01-05T22:45:35Z")

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Actually … money goes to PA. Not CCP. They are just people workers with salary… and replacement for old and expensive developers … If you read tiny bit about their other game of PA: BDO… you will see vast majority of comments like : its beautifull game but too much pat to play ruining players that feeling of they keep farmed by the PA. Its corean company … and they believe CCP share the same genetics… one of reason they bought CCP… before that transfer i had never experienced that much inrisions to games eco system cause real life money demand…

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