# 8 Golden Rules for EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [June 20, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973 "2017-06-20T15:33:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/554 "2023-07-13T21:50:08Z")
> [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Frankly it seems like it is made for “bad guys” or to train you to become a “bad guy” if you aren’t already one. Every other MMO out there makes every single one of their million+ players to feel like “the hero” of the world. How dystopian and fake is that? A fantasy world filled with 1 million characters who “are destined to be The Hero of The Realm”. Eve Online cuts through that coddly crap and simply says: you are who you are. Your actions will always wind up with your “reputation” of “good/bad” to be… well, a more realistic gritty fantasy. Instead of a coddly soft and fluffly fantasy with everyone frolicking in Alpine meadows holding hands shouting at each other “no _you’re_ the hero of the realm” bull 💩. To some you are a villain, to others a friend. Up to your wits to navigate and sort everyone else out. > [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Where’s the post that makes eve all worth it, despite this very negative (albeit I presume factual) set of rules? You can be whoever you want to be. You can try to be the “savior” of some group of players. People will naturally dislike you, and you will have real player enemies. You can call them “villains” and they can call you “villains”. That’s what keeps the game going: player rivalries, motivations, and imposing their will on an uncaring grimdark dystopic future. > [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Is it a question of “Get the noobs fat and ready so we can take them for all they have”? Is this what eve is? No. > [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Are there “good guys (girls)” in eve? Yes, but one person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist. It is your job to convince others you’re “the good guy” – and people will naturally be skeptical of you, because everyone is claiming to be “the good guy” in a world where very little stops them from blowing up your ship. The game just doesn’t hand you a label of “Level 1 Hero Destined To Save The Whole Universe”. It is more mature than those childish delusional MMO zero-dimensional stories. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/555 "2023-07-14T00:33:14Z")
I really like how EveOnline _we_ are not the hero or centre of attention. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/556 "2023-07-14T03:30:29Z")
> [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > I am not sure this game is for me. You are correct, this game is not for snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/557 "2023-07-15T06:46:16Z")
I beg to differ, but align with your sentiment. There is no adventure without adversity it is our fellows that provide the challenge daunting as an exclusive competitive university makes such ventures worthy alonge successful or not, your mettle will be tested schooled with allies or failure alone ---
**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/558 "2023-07-17T15:21:05Z")
> [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Get the noobs fat and ready so we can take them for all they have” A underestimated currency in EVE is time. A lost ship is every day’s business, but there’s millions of ships sitting in stations never used again because the chars are not active any more. For a PvP player, the most thrilling fight is a somewhat fair fight. So we need experienced players on both sides. Be aware that every player has been a newbro at some time, only very few are playing longer than 15 years. So there’s ways to advance, and soon it’s you getting used to kill noobs for fun. > [@0-TULIP-0](#): > > Are there “good guys (girls)” in eve? Yeah, they are very good at killing… Na, just kidding. There’s miners, industrialists, explorers, haulers, even wormhole rescue squads. There’s players venturing into each and every system of New Eden trying not to be killed. There’s fireworks parades and speed races. There’s players dedicated to show new players how to have fun in New Eden. Yes, in New Eden there’s plenty of “good guys” and gals. The 8 rules are picked and written down here to create a feeling of what’s normal in the game. Losing a ship is not dying, it’s just a destroyed sand castle. Well, there’s very elaborated sandcastles for which you’ve had invested much time to build. But you are still there and able to build a new one, different one, even better one. But if you are afraid of losing sand castles, you should avoid crowded sandboxes - New Eden has much space for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Majama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majama/32/382431_2.png) [@Majama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Majama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/559 "2023-08-16T09:20:25Z")
And one last best rule/advice - not play this shitty game, you will keep your health and time for more interesting games and matters. Leave this hell to those aggressive and disturbed who no longer hope for health. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/560 "2023-08-16T09:42:46Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/e/d/bedb9557ed3bbd6a54c7228f4fe1cfb66373a662.jpeg) There you go. Now, can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/561 "2023-08-16T10:06:09Z")
You will come back, you will see… until then. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/562 "2023-08-17T03:36:35Z")
Oh dear. Someone lost a pixilated spaceship and is having a meltdown over video game. Your safe space is calling you. ---
**Author:** ![SwingFish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swingfish/32/449225_2.png) [@SwingFish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SwingFish)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/563 "2023-08-31T02:21:09Z")
aren’t that golden rules for Life? if one has a meltdown over any of those, they seriously need to look what happen to IRL 😉 > Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose just like IRL, don’t buy the newest iPhone just because you want it. > You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. Consent is probably the wrong word in general, but if you do leave your IRL house, there is a chance that you meet someone on the foothpath that isn’t to your liking and maybe even not abiding the law (woo yea that’s a thing in IRL) > Everyone can scam the Nigerian prince said it’s not a scam! 😉 > Experience matters, not ISK or Skills in IRL there is somethings called the 10000 Hour rule, and having money (or daddies amex), doesn’t make you smarter 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/564 "2023-08-31T09:17:31Z")
> [@SwingFish](#): > > don’t buy the newest iPhone just because you want it > [@SwingFish](#): > > there is a chance that you meet someone on the foothpath > [@SwingFish](#): > > not abiding the law Bye Bye Iphone NERF PvP ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/3/dc34d5dd8572f548e5fcbb4c6ef91cec1dc56252.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Gideon\_Finkk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gideon_finkk/32/385077_2.png) [@Gideon\_Finkk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gideon_Finkk)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/565 "2023-09-03T13:14:23Z")
Hull Upgrades 5 Mechanics 5 and Sheild Management 5. You will last a little longer in any hostile environment. Meaning you have longer to shoot at the other guy. Thank me later. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Whitten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inigo_whitten/32/386865_2.png) [@Inigo\_Whitten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inigo_Whitten)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/566 "2023-09-11T04:18:13Z")
I know this thread is old as heck, but here’s my meme suggestion: every time you undock, you get a pop up that asks if you consent to pvp, and if you click no, it deletes your whole account. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/567 "2023-09-11T07:10:11Z")
You then have a popup asking if Zaera can have all your stuff ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/568 "2023-09-14T10:07:40Z")
One Golden rule could be never tell the Ganker witch know how much you could really afford @Zaera_Keena ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/569 "2023-09-14T12:08:32Z")
1 billion ISK ---
**Author:** ![Vizkomaru\_Togashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vizkomaru_togashi/32/464153_2.png) [@Vizkomaru\_Togashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vizkomaru_Togashi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/570 "2023-11-06T18:38:31Z")
9th EVE golden rule: “Always have a drake ready to bring if the FC allows it.” ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/571 "2023-11-06T20:31:05Z")
Yes - the FC should make all the noobs bring along drakes, for a laugh. As their fleet pop one by one, they will wonder why they lost and why they didn’t manage to kill a damn thing. Clearly one of the great FCs. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/572 "2023-11-06T20:58:29Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > how much you could really afford Frosty. If you don’t want to fund the Princess’s lavish lifestyle, which to be honest is pretty mean of you; you could put your ISK to good use by giving it to my favourite charity - ME . ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/4/8/8488a57d261e171ab972858f2e15a435beccb4ed.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/573 "2023-11-06T22:43:07Z")
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