# 8 Golden Rules for EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [June 20, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973 "2017-06-20T15:33:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![ISD\_Kai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_kai/32/402812_2.png) [@ISD\_Kai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Kai)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/646 "2024-05-20T19:23:58Z")
Some more off-topic posting has been removed. This thread is being temporarily locked and will be re-opened at a later date. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Kai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_kai/32/402812_2.png) [@ISD\_Kai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Kai)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/647 "2024-05-20T19:24:03Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Kai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_kai/32/402812_2.png) [@ISD\_Kai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Kai)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/648 "2024-05-22T17:31:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/649 "2024-05-22T21:05:56Z")
Obey the golden rules of Eve, or pay the price. It’s that simple. ---
**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/650 "2024-05-23T14:44:01Z")
Well, I personally don’t like obeyers. I prefer those who understand why these rules are reasonable. And because it’s just a game, everybody can try themselves. Perhaps some rules can be adjusted or even ignored in this particular type of playstyle. But in the end all rules were already tested and proven painfully right multiple times with much salt and anger. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/651 "2024-05-23T16:02:21Z")
> [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](#): > > And because it’s just a game But, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/652 "2024-05-25T09:11:24Z")
Frostpacker is the perfect example of the caosuleer who will follow orders from a supreme powerful leader. You might not understand what we mean but there is so much to gain if you do! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/653 "2024-05-25T10:38:18Z")
> [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](#): > > Perhaps some rules can be adjusted or even ignored Sure, but do return to the forums to share your tears. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/1/b/11b63c9fe8a9f9c69ffd7b2083c460cfa00901e0.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/654 "2024-05-26T12:44:40Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > But, is it? Don’t go down that road Zaera. I too, thought it was just a game. But look where my misconception landed me. In a jail cell. Simply because I blew up pixelated spaceships. The super special snowflakes have more power than you think. It’s best just to comply and obey. ---
**Author:** ![Cloe\_Farseer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cloe_farseer/32/420828_2.png) [@Cloe\_Farseer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cloe_Farseer)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/655 "2024-05-26T13:48:19Z")
I think they should be called **Tips** rather than **Rules**. There is only one golden rule: who has the gold makes the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/656 "2024-05-26T14:01:37Z")
> [@Cloe\_Farseer](#): > > who has the gold makes the rules Until they don’t ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/3/5b39e07896f872749e5cadebb44c17b7fbc6b00d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/657 "2024-05-26T15:04:11Z")
> [@Cloe\_Farseer](#): > > I think they should be called **Tips** rather than **Rules**. “Guidance Criteria.” ---
**Author:** ![Fedo\_Foutou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fedo_foutou/32/453520_2.png) [@Fedo\_Foutou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fedo_Foutou)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/658 "2024-05-30T14:25:56Z")
“Guidance Criteria”? You need to review George Carlin about changes in language. That definitely sounds like corporate speak 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/659 "2024-05-30T14:28:43Z")
@Fedo_Foutou Have you ever “pre-boarded” before? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/660 "2024-05-30T14:30:07Z")
> [@Cloe\_Farseer](#): > > I think they should be called **Tips** rather than **Rules** They’re more like guidelines anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/661 "2024-05-31T03:02:36Z")
It’s worse than corporate speak. It’s verbiage right out of the US EPA. It’s government speak. Written that way so they, themselves, don’t have to follow the “guidance criteria” they set forth, but will enforce it with legal action if industry fails to follow it as absolute rule. ---
**Author:** ![Fedo\_Foutou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fedo_foutou/32/453520_2.png) [@Fedo\_Foutou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fedo_Foutou)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/662 "2024-05-31T13:27:14Z")
Well the USEPA uses the term guidance criteria for things like the Clean Water Act and I’m all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/663 "2024-05-31T19:35:36Z")
No. They use it for laboratory methodology, such as SW-846. For example, they expect labs, such as Eurofins (formally Test America) to conduct method detection limit studies (MDL’s) to accompany their data. (Mostly to J flag results between the MDL and RL) however, they themselves won’t do the same studies. I’ve even been told by Region 8 and Region 2 staff chemists, “we don’t do them. Because they are a waste of time.” Which, they are. They call it “guidance” criteria so they themselves don’t have to do the work. But a commercial lab better. Because if they don’t…. It can mean litigation. It’s not applied to overarching regulatory conditions such as RCRA, CERCLA, or the Clean Air and Water act. Those are applied by the Federal Register. That’s a whole different animal. And it’s the Law. But what do I know? I’m 12. And serving multiple consecutive lifetime sentences in a federal penitentiary for blowing up pixilated spaceships. ---
**Author:** ![Fedo\_Foutou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fedo_foutou/32/453520_2.png) [@Fedo\_Foutou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fedo_Foutou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/664 "2024-06-03T12:38:57Z")
I’m not a chemist but as I understand it method detection limits and reporting limits for any analytical method and instrument are going to vary by laboratory, so it doesn’t surprise me that the USEPA would want analytical laboratories to determine the MDLs and RLs for analyses that a lab is planning on conducting. I also suspect that the USEPA does these studies as well. And a commercial lab should do those studies. You need to establish what the limits to methodology are to be certain you are reporting valid concentrations. And if you aren’t properly doing the work particularly if you are monitoring something like contaminants in soil or drinking water then litigation might definitely be something you would have to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Cloe\_Farseer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cloe_farseer/32/420828_2.png) [@Cloe\_Farseer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cloe_Farseer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973/665 "2024-06-03T15:33:00Z")
> [@Harmonia\_Blissel](#): > > They’re more like guidelines anyway. Important guidelines quickly become rules 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973.md?page=28) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973.md?page=30)