# A Critique of historical Imperial Reclaiming Policy

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [August 24, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429 "2017-08-24T13:56:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/223 "2017-09-04T08:55:08Z")

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I recognise that you yourself are relatively powerless to enact change in such a matter, but as long as everyone continues to state “oh, it’s someone else’s concern” I’m fairly certain the status quo will be maintained. Perhaps condemning the actions rather than just saying “Well, you’re all criminals but hey we said we’d play nice, that matters, right?” would be more helpful.

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**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/224 "2017-09-04T09:03:18Z")

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If saying that the violation of our treaties is a sin is not already a condemnation, then allow me to be _explicitly_ clear:

The greatest sin is deception. Speaking falsely. Any person, holder, general, or otherwise, that swears an oath, contract, or treaty, and then betrays that oath, contract, or treaty, is a servant of the Deceiver and a criminal before God, and they should be punished in a manner befitting the severity of their treason.

Happy?

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/225 "2017-09-04T09:06:16Z")

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Careful now, Dread Kin. You just called for every government official, military leader and most of the populations of every nation in New Eden to be ‘punished in a manner befitting the severity of their treason’.

Of course, it’s not like I disagree with you, but I have a sneaking suspicion your peers and superiors probably would, behind the glassy smiles and nods.

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**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/226 "2017-09-04T09:17:03Z")

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Let them.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/227 "2017-09-04T09:25:10Z")

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Genuine conviction, I am happy, yes.

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**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/228 "2017-09-04T17:23:28Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Hey! I’m a good person! I’m just a terrible liar!
> 
> Wait, I may have that backwards… hang on, gotta check my notes.

You’re a Goon so you definitely have that backwards. Null-Sec pilots in general are terrible people it’s just that Goons are worse terrible people. We are still better than slavers though.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/229 "2017-09-04T18:11:10Z")

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I resemble that remark!

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/230 "2017-09-04T20:55:50Z")

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Pssst, Miz! Sami’s been in a kind of ‘Like I give a fedo fart what ‘authority’ thinks about me’ mood for a while now…

Personally, I think it looks good on her.

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**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/231 "2017-09-05T18:09:21Z")

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You actually think EVERY single state servant has betrayed their contract / oath of service?

C’mon, Miz. That’s tinfoil-hattery.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/232 "2017-09-05T18:14:48Z")

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Or you know… hyperbole befitting the subject. Of course there are honest people in every government and other systems out there.

They’re just few and far between, to the point of finding one becoming a miracle, because you can be damn sure that almost all the ones that would qualify knows _exactly_ how much pure and unadulterated bullcrap their less honest peers are spreading, and they don’t speak up about it.

I swear, the only times anyone actually takes anything I write exactly how I write it is when I indulge in hyperbole.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/233 "2017-09-05T19:08:42Z")

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Or when you threaten to taser me.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/234 "2017-09-06T07:54:51Z")

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She probably enjoys watching you twitch…

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**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/235 "2017-09-06T14:59:16Z")

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You should try exposure as a punishment for corrupt civil servants, frostbite focuses the mind on one’s duties wonderfully.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/236 "2017-09-06T15:05:12Z")

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At the start of the sentence, I thought that was going an entirely different place.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/237 "2017-09-06T15:15:57Z")

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He didn’t say where the frostbite was.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/238 "2017-09-06T15:17:06Z")

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This is true. One then wonders if Pieter has been focused in said fashion.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/239 "2017-09-06T15:25:33Z")

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Every time I suggest ‘exposure’ as the solution to anything, people start throwing ‘indecent’ in front of it for reasons beyond my understanding.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/240 "2017-09-06T15:49:37Z")

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It’s cuz we’re pervs.

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**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/241 "2017-09-06T22:24:24Z")

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That’s your problem right there. You need DECENT exposure. Like, not too much exposure and not too little. Like, not a Gallentean bikini but also not an Amarrian one.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-critique-of-historical-imperial-reclaiming-policy/19429/242 "2017-09-06T22:45:15Z")

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> [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](#):
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> That’s your problem right there. You need DECENT exposure. Like, not too much exposure and not too little. Like, not a Gallentean bikini but also not an Amarrian one.

For example, palm exposure. Take the gloves off!

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