# A letter to CCP and the Community

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 22, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335 "2019-05-22T20:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/61 "2019-05-24T12:15:00Z")

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i logged in all of the days but the last one lol i suck and CCP reminded me I suck

edit : because i have a life and it prevented me from logging into a video game one day.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/62 "2019-05-24T12:31:37Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> edit : because i have a life and it prevented me from logging into a video game one day.

It’s is sad that you suck because you didn’t get virtual gift in a game.  
Next time set your priorities properly.

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/63 "2019-05-24T13:00:11Z")

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> [@March\_rabbit](#):
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> It’s is sad that you suck because you didn’t get virtual gift in a game.  
> Next time set your priorities properly.

And this is why people leave the game… ■■■■ attitudes like this.

I just wanted to point this out to the CCP Staff…

I dont care about the digital toy. Give them their toy. Dont give them their toy. I still treat people with respect. I try to resist inferring, and insulting. Maybe you all would benefit from that too?

STOP TREATING OUR COMMUNITY LIKE ■■■■\< YOU PUNKS

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/64 "2019-05-24T13:07:20Z")

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Where did he insult the guy he replied to? The guy he replied to referred to himself as being sucking for not getting all the rewards.

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/65 "2019-05-24T13:16:48Z")

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It really isnt just this thread, or the forums. Its in the culture of Eve…

Chats, Corp chats, forums, radio and youtube broadcasts.

Im not going to pick apart anyone. I am just asking you all to treat each other with respect. Your own perspective is not the only one watching and reading. try to be considerate and give others the benefit of the doubt. TILL YOU KNOW they are an asshole, at least treat them like they are a nice person…

and to add, if I offended anyone, I will too apologize. I woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning. The first thing I read is these last few posts.

I may have been playing Eve a bit too long, maybe I too am loosing perspective. Try to be nice guys. Even if you are joking.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/66 "2019-05-24T13:20:00Z")

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I just summed up your own post 😇

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/67 "2019-05-24T13:22:24Z")

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No you didn’t. and if you talk to me that way, you would quickly find out why. But hey, this is the Internet after all right? Everyone can act like a big piece of burnt brown toast…

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/68 "2019-05-24T14:00:10Z")

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Are we hurting your feelings? Too bad! HTFU

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/69 "2019-05-24T14:07:44Z")

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> [@Behrin\_Vega](#):
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> It really isnt just this thread, or the forums. Its in the culture of Eve…
> 
> Chats, Corp chats, forums, radio and youtube broadcasts.
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> Im not going to pick apart anyone. I am just asking you all to treat each other with respect. Your own perspective is not the only one watching and reading. try to be considerate and give others the benefit of the doubt. TILL YOU KNOW they are an asshole, at least treat them like they are a nice person…
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> and to add, if I offended anyone, I will too apologize. I woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning. The first thing I read is these last few posts.
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> I may have been playing Eve a bit too long, maybe I too am loosing perspective. Try to be nice guys. Even if you are joking.

EVE is preferentially attractive to a certain type of person. People who feel the need to be competitive at a perhaps-unhealthy level. People who feel the need to one-up and belittle other people in order to bolster their own ego. People who think that there are points to be won in everything, and that putting someone else ‘down’ inherently moves you ‘up’. People who feel that ‘harvesting the tears of others’ is inherently entertaining.

The basic design structure of EVE has a lot to do with this. EVE gameplay tends to weed out the people who find these attitudes annoying, and retain the people who get off on it.

So sure, there will be days when you are a bit on the grumpy side, and these attitudes totally rub you the wrong way. There will be other days when you can just blow it off because you know it’s mostly people with ‘issues’ trying to deal with their issues by being dorks/trolls/sarcastic d\*\*\*bags.

The thing to keep in perspective is, those people are the loud, annoying, minority. There are plenty of great, generous, giving/helping/caring people in EVE. There are plenty of creative, thoughtful, funny individuals. They just don’t go out of their way to be ‘in your face’ all the time, because they don’t have esteem issues they need to prop up.

Any time you get irked by some troll in the forums/chat/wherever, just remember there’s 2-3 very nice people flying around out there, just waiting for you to bump into them.

(Edit: Oh, and sometimes the creative/funny/highly active individuals are _also_ the ones with the most competitive/pushy/annoying attitudes at times… just check out some of the old song/video productions. So you gotta take the community and their quirks as a whole.)

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/70 "2019-05-24T14:59:12Z")

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> [@Dread\_Saboteur](#):
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> Are we hurting your feelings? Too bad! HTFU

No. I just hate seeing people ■■■■ on what I love. And I happen to love Eve. So you can take that for what you will.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> EVE is preferentially attractive to a certain type of person.

Sure, We get the point.

I should have read into the context before jumping down someones throat. I appologize.

Please be nice to each other. We would really like to see Eve pick back up again. I guess I am simply in a bad mood.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/71 "2019-05-24T17:16:41Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> i have a life

There is your mistake.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/2/d27c2a9ca5ad773e357121976c350ec5eb56fbe2.jpeg)

😉

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/72 "2019-05-24T18:40:28Z")

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> [@Behrin\_Vega](#):
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> And this is why people leave

Good riddance

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/73 "2019-05-24T18:46:14Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Good riddance

I am not going anywhere because my Eve fun does not rely on the social aspect of the game. But I think it is a shame morons with such attitudes like yourself, who ruin it for others, get to enjoy the game. Its no bother. I have let go of the attachment.

Hope you all have a better day.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/74 "2019-05-24T18:46:55Z")

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> [@Behrin\_Vega](#):
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> morons with such attitudes like yourself,

Calm down miner

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/75 "2019-05-24T19:27:11Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Calm down miner

You aren’t getting a rise out of me, you are only proving my point.

edit: your insults is what Im pointing out, its condiscending. It’s rude. I am sure you can understand.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Aurgnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ensign_aurgnet/32/137450_2.png) [@Ensign\_Aurgnet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ensign_Aurgnet)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/76 "2019-05-24T19:56:56Z")

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I work 100+ hours a week most of the time, still managed to get 1m so on 8 accts.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/77 "2019-05-24T20:26:56Z")

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> [@Behrin\_Vega](#):
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> You aren’t getting a rise out of me

Yet you found a deep need to call me names. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/78 "2019-05-24T20:34:35Z")

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> [@Ensign\_Aurgnet](#):
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> I work 100+ hours a week most of the time, still managed to get 1m so on 8 accts.

If a slob like this guy can manage to get his 8 million skillpoint, ANYONE should be able to have done it. After reading this, I’m inclined to think a brain damaged ape could have done it. Dude works 100 hours a day and he found the time. NO EXCUSES!

Good job, @Ensign_Aurgnet

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**Author:** ![Behrin\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/behrin_vega/32/423154_2.png) [@Behrin\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Behrin_Vega)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/79 "2019-05-24T20:35:23Z")

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Theres no need… I’m just recipocating what you are giving this way. I am glad you picked up on it! I hope you learned a lesson.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Aurgnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ensign_aurgnet/32/137450_2.png) [@Ensign\_Aurgnet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ensign_Aurgnet)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-letter-to-ccp-and-the-community/161335/80 "2019-05-25T01:18:30Z")

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it says a week you mango

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