# A lot of confusion and lack of freedom **URL:** \ **Category:** Photon UI\ **Created:** [November 24, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805 "2022-11-24T01:57:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![space\_banana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/space_banana/32/344064_2.png) [@space\_banana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/space_banana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/1 "2022-11-24T01:57:54Z")
new players are confused.so many boosts,skill injectors and buffs and this and that.it’s too much and too confusing.i showed the game to 3 friends and the 3 gave up because they were confused with the fact that everything has to be paid , including having to pay to turn off the security state in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/2 "2022-11-24T06:05:41Z")
Well this isn’t anything new. The game has always had a subscription model, and has always had a steep learning curve. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/3 "2022-11-24T06:19:41Z")
> [@space\_banana](#): > > 3 friends and the 3 gave up In WOW you buy your subscription, buy a mount, buy special items outfits, buy packs, buy skill levels. In EVE you buy your subscription, buy Plex, buy, skins, buy packs, buy skills. Same \< \> Same, nothing too hard, they probably just didn’t find a 20+ year old geezer game all that interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/4 "2022-11-24T11:39:39Z")
> [@space\_banana](#): > > new players are confused.so many boosts,skill injectors and buffs and this and that.it’s too much and too confusing.i I agree. It is confusing. It’s going to take me years to match what I learn little by little and translate that into actual “on the ground” gameplay and tactics. Then again, I’m not looking to conquer the galaxy so I take it as it comes and do what I can to make sense of it all. I’m just a poor lowly little capsuleer in HUGE universe. ---
**Author:** ![Kren\_Saraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kren_saraki/32/415555_2.png) [@Kren\_Saraki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kren_Saraki)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/5 "2022-11-24T13:07:46Z")
> [@space\_banana](#): > > ncluding having to pay to turn off the security state in high sec. funny that this is what new players care about ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-lot-of-confusion-and-lack-of-freedom/385805/6 "2023-02-22T13:08:40Z")
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