# A message from The Triglavian Initiative **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** invasion, low-sec, high-sec\ **Created:** [August 18, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010 "2020-08-18T14:46:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/43 "2020-08-18T20:17:59Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > how much players get engaged That really was the highest point, Jita when invaded will not be so fought over. There will be no people to fight then, peeps will at last walk out of homes, no gorona anymore, and their stuff will be safe in Jita 4-4 npc station, waiting for better times. Only some pro trig in his 3 multiboxed Leshaks wil be there, he is always there in EDENCOM sites. ---
**Author:** ![Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ichabod_crane_esq/32/353572_2.png) [@Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ichabod_Crane_Esq)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/44 "2020-08-18T21:12:55Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > Good guys win again. No the good guys lost… the better guys won… ---
**Author:** ![Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ichabod_crane_esq/32/353572_2.png) [@Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ichabod_Crane_Esq)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/45 "2020-08-18T21:15:02Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > you realize that the power blocs actually do NOT want Niarja to fall, right? so what you are saying… the null block alliances got out done by high sec “players” ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/46 "2020-08-18T21:23:52Z")
Yeah i agree with you that null blocs are spoilt brats and CCP shouldn’t put up with it. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the trig invasion in empire. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/47 "2020-08-18T21:46:18Z")
Grats on your NPC content taking over from players fighting players …iguess. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/48 "2020-08-18T21:47:24Z")
> [@Leon\_en\_Marland](#): > > After 36 hours of gruelling combat and through the cooperation of The Triglavian Initiative and The Imperium, the system of Niarja is finally under Triglavian control. 36 hours is a long grind – especially from a group that was reminded they need to step away from the keyboard and maybe take a bath. Is this new eve? ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/49 "2020-08-18T22:52:11Z")
Bath ??? That’s what baby wipes are for. ---
**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/50 "2020-08-18T23:18:38Z")
Was a lot of fun everyone ---
**Author:** ![Calum\_MacGowan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calum_macgowan/32/422429_2.png) [@Calum\_MacGowan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calum_MacGowan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/52 "2020-08-19T01:33:00Z")
Thank you and the rest of TTI for the opportunity to take part. I wish I got myself dug in sooner, this is the most engaging PvE content I’ve ever been involved in. ---
**Author:** ![Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhi_fen-chun/32/249257_2.png) [@Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhi_Fen-Chun)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/53 "2020-08-21T21:45:59Z")
Ah so because you personally weren’t there to see the pro-EDENCOM pushback it didn’t happen. Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/54 "2020-08-21T22:24:25Z")
A long time ago in a expansion trailer long since forgotten CCP said the Empires were losing their grasp on power, this theme has been slowly escalating for years with newer NPCs providing various levels of active threats to players. Trigs are merely the newest of the NPCs that actively threaten empire control and the first to offer players in hisec the chance to actively influence the amount of control the empires have for a more than a couple of days It’ll get patched a couple of times before it works in a more balanced manner in terms of the influence hopefully going both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/55 "2020-08-21T22:27:11Z")
I understand the Triglavians. What I don’t understand is Edencom. Edencom seems completely redundant to the existing empires and their fortress systems seem pointless. If the Trigs lost a system, it could have just reverted to normal. Instead, it stays “invaded” but with a fortress. It makes no sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/56 "2020-08-21T22:44:26Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > it stays “invaded” but with a fortress Yeah, that could and probably should be the first step in the empires taking the system back, not the end stage, like establishing a beachhead. It wouldn’t be the first time that someone released something before they had the rest of it that makes it work ready to go live. I’ve not looked at the mechanics so I’m basically John Snowing it at the moment 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Carrus\_Thrace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carrus_thrace/32/421054_2.png) [@Carrus\_Thrace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carrus_Thrace)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/57 "2020-08-21T22:46:21Z")
The reason that the system becomes a “fortress” is a gameplay mechanics reason. If they system did not become a fortress, and reverted back to a normal system, then it could be targeted for invasion again. This would mean that the EDENCOM players would see NOTHING for all their effort. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/58 "2020-08-21T22:50:55Z")
The term invaded is potentially confusing if it’s used like Xeux says, fortified would be a much better label for a system in a fortress state. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/59 "2020-08-21T23:19:17Z")
The gates leading into EDENCOM fortress systems still have giant flags of Triglavians on them and the station text is all triangles. It is pretty silly. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/60 "2020-08-22T00:53:12Z")
Yeah that’s daft, if it’s a fortress system it would make more sense to swap the trig flag for an edencom flag and revert the text back to normal, or another font. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/61 "2020-08-22T02:50:24Z")
Do you still get trig npc’s roaming in Fortress systems? Cause then i can see the value in having them show on the star gate. ---
**Author:** ![Carrus\_Thrace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carrus_thrace/32/421054_2.png) [@Carrus\_Thrace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carrus_Thrace)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/62 "2020-08-22T03:15:27Z")
Trig NPCs will only be found in Triglavian Minor Victories and Liminal Systems. Emerging conduits can be farmed in Minor Victory systems but there are no sites in Liminalities. ---
**Author:** ![independant\_warfare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/independant_warfare/32/222174_2.png) [@independant\_warfare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/independant_warfare)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010/63 "2020-08-22T06:11:41Z")
There is normaly 1 roaming trig fleet in every edencom minor victory as well [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-message-from-the-triglavian-initiative/261010.md?page=4)