# A mistake made and speaking in the height of anger

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 12, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940 "2017-09-12T21:37:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cherry\_blood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_blood/32/154603_2.png) [@cherry\_blood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cherry_blood)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/342 "2017-09-13T06:44:51Z")

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you don’t see how saying enjoy using your hands while they still work. followed quickly with a see ya IRL soon if different than killing all amarria?

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**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/343 "2017-09-13T06:50:16Z")

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[quote=“Nomie\_Kim\_Kim, post:333, topic:23940”]  
social engineering which is hacking in the USA as people lost moneys by a thief That my HOP

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/344 "2017-09-13T06:51:12Z")

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Social engineering is part of the game. Stop being a baby. The guy has been rightfully banned. Comparing his situation to anothers is pointless because CCP can enforce the rules in any way they want.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/345 "2017-09-13T06:51:22Z")

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well they didnt lose money they lost in game assets  
and the theft is done through alliance and corp mechanics not by getting passwords  
the game is designed to allow this kind of theft to happen

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**Author:** ![koahi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koahi/32/23972_2.png) [@koahi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/koahi)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/346 "2017-09-13T06:52:28Z")

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I’m not a lawyer but I know a lot about Cole’s Law.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/347 "2017-09-13T06:53:08Z")

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> [@Myrddin\_Calyx](#):
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> did you know that every time there is an article like this, the PCU peaks?
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> your worries are unfounded, but absolutely adorable.

PCU peaks when they wrote about 5000 man battles, not when players are scammed of backstabbed. Go create some content Goon and make a war instead sitting on a forum.

> [@DraconicBlade](#):
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> On the topic of Co2 Alliance recordings, what do you think about the interim CEO immediately talking about punching The Judge at fanfest with less than a day in the role?

I’m not saying he is not guility and shouldn’t be banned, I’m not sure permaban is necessary. It was clearly a set up from The Judge. I’ve been calling worse in EvE. I behaved worse, but person at the other end of the keyboard always told me: “relax, it’s just a game”. I’m not justifing him.

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**Author:** ![Myrddin\_Calyx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/myrddin_calyx/32/177242_2.png) [@Myrddin\_Calyx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Myrddin_Calyx)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/348 "2017-09-13T06:54:25Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> Go create some content Goon and make a war instead sitting on a forum.

i’m just a line member and don’t have to do anything i don’t want to you dirty…whatever irrelevant alliance you’re in.

> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> It was clearly a set up from The Judge.

yes it was totally a setup to force gigx to make real life threats to someone who stole his internet spacecraft funbux.

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**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/349 "2017-09-13T06:55:19Z")

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hens why i and i hop others leave the game/if i pay a sub and buy plex and it stolen then it hacking/anyway i think active users will drop as it has been.

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**Author:** ![Pier\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pier_rin/32/150063_2.png) [@Pier\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pier_Rin)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/351 "2017-09-13T06:56:43Z")

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A person (in this case GigX) is responsible for his own actions. Mister X should have thought first before he made his threat. And if he cannot control his temper, he should follow anger management course.

The uela is clear about what he did.

And just the fact that he is a “content creator” should give him a reason to do what ever he wants???

If anything he should be happy no 1 reports him to the authorities. Because i am pretty sure, that in some country’s, its against the law what he did.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/352 "2017-09-13T06:56:55Z")

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This is an english sub-forum. You can take whatever kind of language you’re speaking and find that sub-forum.

I did manage to translate some of your gibberish and all I have to say is HTFU. This is eve. It’s always been like this. It has been designed like this. If you want a game to farm in and be cute friends, go play another game.

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**Author:** ![DraconicBlade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draconicblade/32/23850_2.png) [@DraconicBlade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DraconicBlade)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/353 "2017-09-13T06:57:02Z")

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Player freedom works both ways, just because you don’t like the way the game is played by some people doesn’t make it “wrong”. Its when spacepixels bleed into real life threats of involuntary amputation that ■■■■ crosses the line.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Kaho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kaho/32/460342_2.png) [@Lord\_Kaho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kaho)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/354 "2017-09-13T06:57:07Z")

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The Judge was voted to Support the Community and as a Speaker of the Community.  
What did he do?

The Judge was payed on a RL bbq to start some kind of InGame ■■■■. First point.  
Also he Streamed a Chat to “Bait” a players aggression and to offend him. Second point.

gigX reaction is a normal reaction from someone who got ■■■■■■ up a work over 10 years.  
And The Judge know how he reacts… And Streamed it. He streamed a Chat without someone knowing.

I dont know how it is in your Country but here in Germany its not allowed to Stream such thing without a permission. So that is the Third Point.

The Mittani got your Fanfast as a Broadcast option to alot of ppl… For what?  
To encourage a whole playercommuniyt hit someones face and try that he just do a suicide.

Also that is a hard crime act here in germany. And as CCP didnt stop that, this is also a crime.

So if someone get a permaban for a “human” reaction (and i bet everyone of you in CCP did the same to a ex-girlfriend) we also have 2 other People to get a Permban. Also The Judge is not longer a trustable player (because of RMT on a CCP BBQ) he should be removed from CCP.

@CCP_Falcon

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**Author:** ![Jin-Shan\_Wang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin-shan_wang/32/144912_2.png) [@Jin-Shan\_Wang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin-Shan_Wang)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/355 "2017-09-13T06:57:31Z")

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I seriously hope for the love of everything that you don’t actually believe that everyone else in a situation of anger would ask for his opponents private adress, followed by the threat of an IRL meeting with hands being cut off. Get a grip on reality! This was a punishable criminal offense in I think any country of the world, downplaying it won’t work.

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**Author:** ![Manks\_Girl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manks_girl/32/449098_2.png) [@Manks\_Girl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manks_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/357 "2017-09-13T06:59:00Z")

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If it happened 5 years ago or 5 months ago it doesn’t matter. It’s the consistency of CCP that is in question here and how they apply the EULA rules to someone who hasn’t got a CSM tank.

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**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/358 "2017-09-13T06:59:13Z")

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good i hope it burns and you can play withyourself.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/359 "2017-09-13T06:59:50Z")

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A betrayal of trust at this level will cause strong emotion and allowances should be made for this. You don’t permaban someone for being human.

Unacceptable things were said and there need to be consequences but, unless there is a pattern of behavior that indicates a strong likelihood of re-offending, I believe a lesser punishment - perhaps a 30 day ban is sufficient. People do learn from their mistakes.

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**Author:** ![DraconicBlade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draconicblade/32/23850_2.png) [@DraconicBlade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DraconicBlade)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/360 "2017-09-13T07:01:19Z")

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Yeah if Gigx hadn’t been banned before for threatening and harassing people, and if he didn’t continue to make harassing threatening comments after he got banned, maybe you’d have a point.

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**Author:** ![Isk\_Baron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isk_baron/32/23974_2.png) [@Isk\_Baron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isk_Baron)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/361 "2017-09-13T07:01:21Z")

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Dear CO2 line members,

Regards, Eve

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/362 "2017-09-13T07:01:25Z")

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> [@Lord\_Kaho](#):
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> The Judge was payed on a RL bbq to start some kind of InGame ■■■■.

Proof?

> [@Lord\_Kaho](#):
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> Also he Streamed a Chat to “Bait” a players aggression and to offend him

Nothing wrong with farming and collecting tears. This conspiracy that he was setting all this up to bait players to say things to get themselves banned is a little over the top.

> [@Lord\_Kaho](#):
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> I dont know how it is in your Country but here in Germany its not allowed to Stream such thing without a permission.

This is a video game. Unless CCP has some issue with people streaming their game, then it’s all good. That chat room is not his real life personal space that is protected by privacy laws. My god this is scary how dense you are…

> [@Lord\_Kaho](#):
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> Also The Judge is not longer a trustable player (because of RMT on a CCP BBQ) he should be removed from CCP.

Again, where’s your proof?

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/363 "2017-09-13T07:01:37Z")

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> [@Lord\_Kaho](#):
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> Also The Judge is not longer a trustable player (because of RMT on a CCP BBQ) he should be removed from CCP.

What RMT?

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