# A mistake made and speaking in the height of anger **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940 "2017-09-12T21:37:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/384 "2017-09-13T07:18:52Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > At this point I don’t understand, really, who is worst in EVE and real life. A person who shitposting and IRL threating or a person who betrayed 4000 neutral people and stolen their 1 000 000 000 000 ISK/3 000 000 ISK/PLEX = $333 333 gained over the last 3 years. > > Who’s worse? Out of context. 1. GigX shouldn’t threat The Judge 2. The Judge should be a baby and if had an argument with GigX leadership just leave coalition. Writing a letter, like he did, that he still bealive that will be flying with someone from former group after he sold them, is so low. Also baiting GigX of stream. Don’t know it such thing is even legal if you don’t you’ll be broadcasted. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/385 "2017-09-13T07:19:34Z")
YOU ARE A RETARD ---
**Author:** ![Jin-Shan\_Wang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin-shan_wang/32/144912_2.png) [@Jin-Shan\_Wang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin-Shan_Wang)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/386 "2017-09-13T07:19:43Z")
Get this in your heads: gigx is now an IRL **criminal**. Do you expect ccp to ignore that? ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/387 "2017-09-13T07:20:54Z")
seem you are ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/388 "2017-09-13T07:21:38Z")
lol no ---
**Author:** ![Cpt\_Patrick\_Archer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_patrick_archer/32/181782_2.png) [@Cpt\_Patrick\_Archer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Patrick_Archer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/389 "2017-09-13T07:23:10Z")
Please reconsider the ban, it would be a black page in Eve history if gigX gets booted out forever. ---
**Author:** ![blazigen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blazigen/32/491485_2.png) [@blazigen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blazigen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/390 "2017-09-13T07:23:59Z")
Then you and me should also be able to agree. This discussion is not about if gigx did something wrong. Because everyone in this thread is in agreement about that. But the horrible loose way of wielding a ban hammer and the inconsistency of wielding the ban hammer in similar cases. People have said worse things to me after I popped them. Yet I still see them fly round. Which proves inconsistency following there own set of rules. And ofcourse no one can provide proof since that in itself is a bannable offense. Another more recent example for those claiming mittens thing was 5 years ago. Lets a back just a few years. Dude that threatenend erotica1, with similar words. Never received a perma ban because he was put under pressure by ourside forces aka heat of the moment. What ccp needs to do here is show consistency. If we follow the trail of inconsistency ccp has allowed themselves to create gigx doesnt deserve a permaban. Everyone here also thinks he deserves a ban. We just dont agree on the duration. Either ccp shows they indicriminately treat cases litteraly case by case. And show acknowledges they are incostistent. If thats the case they nees to relook at gigx his ban and make it of a different duration. Or ccp draws a line in the sand. But it needs to be a freaking deep one. And from this day need to be utterly consistent wielding the ban hammer in similar and all situations. If not players will notice in a heartbeat. Since they will notice players they petitioned for similar behavior still flying round. And it would irrepirably harm the game and cause its end. Neither of these two option is a pretty one. But ccp will.need to chose either give or take. So I do not envy there position right now. ---
**Author:** ![Pier\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pier_rin/32/150063_2.png) [@Pier\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pier_Rin)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/391 "2017-09-13T07:25:03Z")
Why do you think The Judge ran to ccp??? Every 1 eve awake (including ccp) could see it on stream what happend!!! ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/392 "2017-09-13T07:32:13Z")
> [@CowQueen\_MMXII](#): > > > Rexxar\_Santaro: > > > > At this point I don’t understand, really, who is worst in EVE and real life. > > Being “bad” in Eve doesn’t matter at all. You can asshole all day long as long as it stays within the game, it’s called content and that is a good thing. See, it’s confused, because massive robbery is called content, but chat threatening is called criminal in this game. IDK who is GigX in game and real life, but I have such sense over this game now. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/393 "2017-09-13T07:34:27Z")
> [@Jin-Shan\_Wang](#): > > Get this in your heads: gigx is now an IRL criminal. Do you expect ccp to ignore that? LOL, dude, a person can’t be called criminal until he does something criminal and ONLY after the court call somebody criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/394 "2017-09-13T07:38:23Z")
> [@Jin-Shan\_Wang](#): > > Get this in your heads: gigx is now an IRL criminal. Do you expect ccp to ignore that? He is? Already convicted? Can you post his jail adress I’ll send him some cigs for bribing herders. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/395 "2017-09-13T07:40:49Z")
[quote=“Rexxarcourt\_Santaro, post:393, topic:23940”]e] I’m just sad i had high hop for this game but it full of bad people it seem’s which make it not fun ? how is gutting your foe fun no one to fight ---
**Author:** ![Inara\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inara_kane/32/474912_2.png) [@Inara\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inara_Kane)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/396 "2017-09-13T07:41:42Z")
Why do you think Judge was the one who reported it? Anyone watching that stream or in Alliance chat could have reported him. 1,700 people watched gigx threaten him, and everyone I was in comms with knew gigx’s alt. ---
**Author:** ![Pier\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pier_rin/32/150063_2.png) [@Pier\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pier_Rin)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/397 "2017-09-13T07:44:03Z")
Thats what i mean. I responded to a person who asumed the Judge ran to ccp 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/398 "2017-09-13T07:44:21Z")
dose Judge have any worry’s now he got a fat pay check IRL MONY im sure. ---
**Author:** ![Pier\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pier_rin/32/150063_2.png) [@Pier\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pier_Rin)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/399 "2017-09-13T07:46:09Z")
What GigX did was on stream and so its prove, where is your prove that The Judge recieved real life payments? ---
**Author:** ![Arronicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arronicus/32/267860_2.png) [@Arronicus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arronicus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/400 "2017-09-13T07:48:11Z")
> [@Gematica](#): > > the stuff that has been said is in pure anger at the height of the moment which anyone would’ve done if they had dedicated that much of their time to build and maintain an entity such as CO2. No, quit kidding yourself. This is inexcusable behavior and many of us, myself included, would NOT pull that ■■■■. I’d be extremely mad, and upset, but that doesn’t make me threaten people or try to doxx them, nor should it have that effect on any reasonable person. The fact that Gigx chose that route is completely inexcusable, and given that this isn’t the first time gigx has done something of the sort, it will be extremely disappointing if CCP ever reverses this ban. **CCP, please listen to your community:** Real life threats and attempts to doxx should be zero tolerance, ESPECIALLY by key leadership figures with a lot of sway. ---
**Author:** ![Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomie_kim_kim/32/173658_2.png) [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomie_Kim_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/401 "2017-09-13T07:49:12Z")
why did he have to meet in person ? after all that time in CO2 he just did it and gave it to goon no way. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/402 "2017-09-13T07:55:42Z")
> [@Arronicus](#): > > CCP, please listen to your community: Real life threats and attempts to doxx should be zero tolerance, ESPECIALLY by key leadership figures with a lot of sway. So, perma ban for Mitten? Dura lex, sed lex? ---
**Author:** ![Inara\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inara_kane/32/474912_2.png) [@Inara\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inara_Kane)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940/403 "2017-09-13T07:57:51Z")
> [@Nomie\_Kim\_Kim](#): > > why did he have to meet in person ? after all that time in CO2 he just did it and gave it to goon no way. I’m not entirely sure you understand how this works. They met in person because they are both CSMs. Therefore they were both in Iceland. They were there for meetings. This is a thing that happens. This was business. With regard to your suggestion that Judge was paid cash out of game for what he did, unless you have any proof I’d stop throwing around that accusation as it’s a pretty serious one. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-mistake-made-and-speaking-in-the-height-of-anger/23940.md?page=21)